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1919 LWC Broadstrike

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I'm pretty sure this is a broadstrike error. It is only 1mm larger (20mm), but has clearly spread out from the strike. There are also some weird planchet issues that may be post minting.

I also wanted to test my new lenses for my iPhone, so let me know what you think.


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 Posted 01/26/2015  5:16 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add nlp coins to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Pictures are clear and focused. I can't comment on the strike error. nlp
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Looks like damage from being broken out if an encasement like a lucky coin.
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I agree. Encased Cent escapee.

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Really? 20mm and distortion like that? I'm certainly not an expert, and I know that wanting something sometimes makes you see things that aren't there, but you really don't think this is a broadstrike error? I was not expecting answers like that.
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im thinking its some kind of error, look at "E PLURIBUS UNUM" especially the "M", it looks like some thing happened to cause doubling. and it doesn't look like Machine Doubling to my eyes.
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 Posted 01/26/2015  7:41 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add thryan9 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Here are some better shots of what you are referring to.


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I am no expert but the gap between the letters and the rim look to wide so I don't think it's a former "lucky coin" that was removed from it's frame.
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The close up shot of EPU looks to me to be Die Deterioration. Notice how the letters are flowing towards the rim. Take a look at the flow lines near the rim shown in the last image of the OP. It's clearly a LDS example. That explains the "distortion" thyran9 describes, but I can't speak to the rim damage.
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Just PMed Mike Diamond for help.
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Here is the edge, if that will help shed some light on this (or confuse even more).


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I see what appears to be some rather interesting doubling on EPU. That peripheral doubling coupled with the odd rim appearance leads me to believe that this coin may have been double struck with the first one in collar and the second one a broadstrike.
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My first thought was encasement as well, but with further examination of the pictures I think biokemist may have it right.
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Thank you for that assessment. How would something like that happen? I'm not very well-versed in the minting process (or errors for that matter). Is this something that should be sent in to a TPG?
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Whether or not to get it slabbed depends on whether or not you intend to keep it or sell it. There's an extra fee for errors.

I got the first error coin I ever found slabbed just because it's precious to me. I found it decades ago and didn't even know what I had until a few years ago. But I have no plans to sell that coin. I just wanted it protected and properly/professionally labeled.


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I agree with biokemist6 that the coin displays a centered double strike, with the first in-collar and the second out-of-collar (or partially confined by the collar).
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