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I keep going back and forth on my long term goals. I may have even posted this topic last year, but I'm still pondering it.

So far I have amassed quite a lot of coins worth $2-30 with a few in the $50-60 range. These are easy to obtain and I pick up several per month without killing the budget. But do I really want to end up with 10,000 relatively cheap coins when I am an old man? Or would I rather have 100 high end, drool-worthy, rare coins.

For example, Do I go for a full set of AU Peace dollars, which would take a few years of steady effort and a couple thousand dollars. Or do I save up for two years and buy a single high grade 1928 or 1934S?

Do I buy a single MS common date Morgan per month or buy one CC mint Morgan per year?

Is a full set of mid-grade Indian Head cents better than a single MS 1909 S

Full set of circulation Kennedy halves or a single 1998 Matte Proof?

The examples are endless, so I think you get the idea.


I'm just pondering where I want to go with this. Spending a little money at a time is easier, but is it getting me where I want to be?

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I feel like I've seen this in a pole a WHILE back... It was fun!
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My story was when I first began dealing coins at our local coin shows in Denver, Colorado in the early 1980's I travelled to an ANA show with a little more than $5k to spend on getting inventory. I passed on a Gobrecht dollar in PR55, a Chain cent in VF/EF as that would have wiped out my money. Instead I purchased many coins to fill my coin bourse cases for shows back home, many coins from $20 and up. today most of the coins are worth maybe twice what they cost then, the two "big ones" I passed on, could probably buy me a house or at least a nice condo today.

Depends on what your goals are in the long term. I did have a lot of fun selling those lower priced coins and it kept me in business until I could make it to the next big show for more buying. If I had purchased the better coins, I would not have kept them and would have had to flip them soon after purchase to get my money back. I wish I had gone with the high end coins, better profit margins, even if they took a little longer to sell. I was never known as a dealer that had super high dollar coins, but always had nice stuff that was affordable.

Of course I was coin dealing, not so much collecting then.

Key dates, in better grades or coins that have no problems and exceptional eye appeal are almost always a good buy over common stuff.
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I think you're not entirely clear on your goal. Investment or hobby?

I truly hope that my more expensive coins are worth more than I paid for them -- someday. But I have a lot of fun collecting relatively inexpensive coins and I don't think I will ever give that up. So I divide my coin budget with nearly all of the money going toward an 'investment coin' and the rest is for me to have some fun getting whatever I want.
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I think you're not entirely clear on your goal. Investment or hobby?


Maybe a little of both, but mostly hobby. I wasn't phrasing the above in terms of which would be worth more. It is more which will be more satisfying long term. Is it more satisfying to show someone a completed album or a single outstanding specimen? Now times that by a few decades of decisions and that's what I'm thinking about.

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To me, your examples are backwards. I believe (or at least for me) collectors try to buy the highest grades for the common dates, and usually settle for lower grades on the key dates.

That being said, I usually buy the highest quality coins I can afford. For me, I'd rather have 2 nice quality coins of the same date, then several different dates of lower quality that I bought just to fill some holes.
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quality for investment

quantity for entertainment

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Those Are The Questions I Should Have Asked Myself 50 Years Ago.
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Maybe a little of both, but mostly hobby.


I can fully understand that. I collect as a hobbyist but I really want to believe that my efforts have some monetary value simply because it is not an inexpensive hobby.

I guess I can only suggest that you save some money from your coin budget. It isn't easy but it really stinks to have nothing in your budget when you run across a great deal.

I think it's great that you're looking decades ahead but this decision doesn't have a deadline. Just try to save some money so that you have the option of changing the direction that your collection takes.

Having a nice stash of cash means you can take advantage of a good deal and you have the option of changing your mind.



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Always quality over quantity.
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I'm with Wade on this. I have an expensive serious study collection, and my other. I can add to it any day for less than a quarter. I enjoy both.
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No brainer, 1 quality coin is way more fun to own than 10 lower graded coins. I've had this attitude since 1968 and it has served me well. Also quality coins are much more liquid, not so much with low grade coins.
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As many others have stated or implied, we can't really answer this for you as we don't know what you enjoy the most.

Do you truly appreciate coins as fine art? Then definitely buy quality, as you will become increasingly disdainful of any coins you might consider inferior or defective.

Is "gotta catch em all" set fulfillment a priority? Then I'd aim for quantity: fill the set as cheaply as possible and upgrade as your budget allows.

Is future investment and potential resale value a major consideration for you? If yes, then quality, if no, then quantity is fine.

For me personally, I have to say that neither of these factors are a prime motivator. In my collecting, I strive not for quantity nor quality, but for "variety" - meaning something novel, something different to anything else I already have. Sitting down and filling an album with identical-looking coins and then slowly upgrading them would be the opposite of "enjoying the hobby" for me; I'd rather just buy one nice example of the type and be done with it. On the other hand, I'd much rather fish out ten coins I've never seen before from places I've never heard of out of a dealer's three-for-a-dollar scratchray than spend $1000 buying rare varieties or high-MS examples of those same coins.

Again, for me, it is the history I uncover as I research my weird and wonderful acquisitions that I enjoy the most, and that is what I recall the most as I go back and look through my collection. Every time I look at my Trebizond coin, for example, I recall the hours of frustrating but ultimately rewarding time I spent in the university library trying to research it.
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I find myself buying quantity of coins in my comfort range.


If I had my choice


I would like to have quantity of quality coins.

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I think for many of us, our coin budget has a lot
to do with the amount we can spend on each coin.

Even if a collector does save up to purchase higher
priced coins, that collector may not feel comfortable
buying coins that are hundreds or thousands.

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With that said. What is better, quantity or quality.

I think a mixture would be good.

Of course a quality coin is different, for different levels
of collectors.

For some a $100 coin might be their top coin, for another it
might be a $10,000 coin.

I have seen both quantity and quality.

Both can be impressive.
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For me, I want to complete the sets, so I am not too particular for these coins; indeed I have a fondness for well-circulated coins in sets. So in that regard my goal would be quantity, it's just more fun for me that way.

Nevertheless, I do want at least one nice well struck MS example of each design I collect, to fully appreciate the design in its entirety. For these few, quality is everything.
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GR58, I really love your explanation.

I completely agree. I personally have a small budget, and now aim for "quality" which for me is $20+. I think it depends on the person, and on if they want the coins for a set (and if it will eventually be upgraded) or for another reason. I think the number one reason that quantity should be avoided, is simply buying as many coins as you can, all of which may be unrelated.

If you are working on a set though, of course you are going to need quantity (for some series at least), as well as likely wanting to get some quality pieces and eventually upgrading the lower quality ones. If you are starting out with a Lincoln Cent collection, for example, you obviously will not spend your entire budget on one coin, and month by month add one coin at a time. You will likely start by adding in circulated wheaties and memorials that you have found/accumulated.

To each his (or her) own. I think the phenomenon of quality vs quantity is just something any collector needs to really consider before diving into the hobby.
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