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New Member
Australia
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Hi all, I am looking at purchasing an 2000 $1 mule coin but am concerned about fakes. Can anyone provide any information on how to spot a fake from the real thing? Attached is an image of a coin I am currently looking at. Any thoughts?  
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New Member
Australia
35 Posts |
I haven't heard of fakes for this coin yet although the reverse looks odd. It looks very flat.
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New Member
 Australia
11 Posts |
I am a bit concerned by the lack of detail with the mob of roos. When I compare to a $1 mule authenticated by PCGS there appears to be more detail although it could just be to do with the lighting or the way the picture was taken.
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Moderator
 United States
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 to CCF. On the obverse,is that ring around the rim normal for that coin? Could be a joint like a Magician's coin? John1 
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New Member
 Australia
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Thanks John  The 2000 $1 mule was struck with a 10c obverse which causes the rim since the 10c coin is slightly smaller. Having said that the rim on this coin seems extremely symmetrical especially compared to other $1 mules I have seen.
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Pillar of the Community
United States
4963 Posts |
If I were you, I would buy it only if I was sure it was authentic- unless an expert can give you a definitive yes or no, I say don't buy it.
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Pillar of the Community
Australia
3767 Posts |
It looks ok in my opinion. As mentioned, it's the angle of the photo taken that may look a bit odd. I suppose the seller doesn't have excellent photography skill.
That said, it's getting very very hard to find one in such excellent condition!
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Pillar of the Community
Australia
1020 Posts |
I might be on the wrong tram as I specialise in Pre-Dec. but isn't the Queens head smaller on a 2000 mule?,just compare to a normal $1.
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New Member
 Australia
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Thanks for your thoughts everyone, much appreciated. Basil - the head size to me looks ok but I am definitely not a specialist! When I compare this coin to another $1 mule taken from a similar angle it has similarities. (see below)  
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Pillar of the Community
Australia
2180 Posts |
Look alright to me. Realistically I think they're kind of hard to fake without striking a whole new coin but that seems like a pretty involved process compared to altering a regular 1966 20c to make a fake wavy baseline for example. Not impossible, but not that likely.
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Pillar of the Community
Australia
1041 Posts |
if that's the coin you are going to purchase its a very well centred coin maybe the best I have seen full centre strike looks ok to me
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New Member
Australia
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Valued Member
Australia
102 Posts |
It looks good, will add a premium for how centered it is
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New Member
 Australia
11 Posts |
Thanks for everyone's thoughts! The coin ended up selling for $1000 which is more than I was comfortable paying without any kind of authentication or grading. The centered strike on the coin is amazing and also the best I have seen, could be a good pickup to the person who purchased.
I ended up buying a $1 mule through a PCGS authorised dealer graded as AU58. Excited to get this coin!!
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Valued Member
Australia
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well centred adds =15-25% premium. definately will cost over $500
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New Member
Australia
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