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 Posted 02/12/2016  02:04 am Show Profile   Bookmark this topic Add dabigdan1 to your friends list Get a Link to this Message Number of Subscribers
I have a question. what can you folks tell me about double die Silver eagles? I have several. 1994 1993 1995 1997 2002 2001 2000 and a 2011 double date is NGC ms70 the rest are beautiful rainbow toners in PCI MS70 slabs. If you could give some feedback on these.

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 Posted 02/12/2016  03:15 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add MontCollector to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I have a couple of ungraded ASEs that have similar strikes, so I think it is fairly common. As of yet I haven't had to pay a premium for one of these coins.

As for the graded coins(and I am no expert) from what I have learned the NGC and PCGS slabs are pretty reliable on their grading. However PCI(as I found out a few day ago) tends to be all over the place on their grading and as a result are less trusted.

But if you are happy with the PCI grading that's all that matters.


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 Posted 02/12/2016  07:26 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Foxwoods Man to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Machine Doubling can be subtle or dramatic. Here is an example on one of my 5 ounce ATB's

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 Posted 02/12/2016  08:54 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add moxking to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
The examples you show all appear to be Machine Doubling. I love seeing actual doubled dies for ASE's as they are the only US coins I collect after 1964.
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 Posted 02/12/2016  2:22 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add mellamobradley46 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
How can you tell the difference between Machine Doubling and double dies? If there is a topic that covers this, I apologize in advance.
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Definition: Mechanical Doubling, also called Machine Doubling or Strike Doubling, a form of doubling which appears on a coin and is easily confused with doubled die strikes. On a true doubled die coin, the doubling comes from a mistake in the process used to make the coin die itself. In mechanical, or Machine Doubling, the doubled image results from mechanical issues during the striking of the coin, such as the coin shifting during striking, or the die itself being jarred out of position as a result of vibration or improper coin press maintenance.

Mechanical, machine, and Strike Doubling are all considered by purists to be forms of damage, and are therefore not collectible as an error coin.

Examples: Most of the time, when novices think they have found a new type of doubled die, they've actually found a coin exhibiting worthless Mechanical Doubling instead.

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Here is just one of many threads concerning MD vs doudled die identification.
http://goccf.com/t/245603

There are many other good ones with more pictures. Do a search and take the time to read through some. Its a popular subject that comes up and this forum is the place to learn.
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 Posted 01/13/2018  11:40 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add CelticKnot to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Good info, Foxwoods.

As far as I'm aware, there is no such thing as die doubling for coins manufactured after 1989 due to changes in die manufacturing processes.
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Thought I was losing it when I couldn't recall putting that info in a thread but it was two years ago!

Feel a bit better now..
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Thought I was losing it when I couldn't recall putting that info in a thread but it was two years ago!
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another member posted this on another thread last week. might be helpful.
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