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Thaler Restrike SF/X... Which Era?

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Hey MTT guys. Picked this girl up for just about spot. They're not my thing but crown sized toned silver is so at spot who could resist right. Anyway, I'm sure it's a modern or modernish restrike but can.anyone narrow it down? Thanks

Oh and are toned thalers like this common or scarce and what would you estimate the value for this one at; and also the value if it were blast white? Thanks

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 Posted 04/17/2016  3:27 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add zypronix to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
This page has the basic references:
http://www.theresia.name/en/svariants.html
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Thanks. I know about the sites but I always attribute them incorrectly and thought one of you MTT guys might know at a glance. I'll look into it though
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If it is a common restrike, makes little difference if it is toned or not.

I have a booklet:
The Restrike Talers of Maria Theresa, (30 pages), by M.R. Broome, reprinted from the Numismatic Chronicle, 1972. The booklet is highly scholarly, but is very complex to enable easy identification of single coins.

The problem with this publication for me, is that I have no idea of the extent of restrikes since that date, so I have never really made the effort to find if the single blast white MS64 example that I have, is a pre or post 1972 restrike.
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Picked this girl up for just about spot.


I'd be surprised if it was worth more than spot regardless of toning. Sorry that I can't help you narrow it down in terms of minting (other than not 1780...)
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It is one of the more or less generic post 1865 issues. After that date only the major varieties of mints other than Vienna are mentioned. There are numerous minor die changes that can be seen on the Vienna issues. At one time I assembled a few dozen but I eventually gave up and sold them all for bullion. I do not know of a source that actually illustrates all of the minor varieties since 1865.

I agree it is a bullion coin - grade and toning are of minimal added value because there is really no one that will buy them at a premium.
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Thanks bob. I feel the color will add at least a little premium to it. I'm a toner guy and while most may see thalers as bullion same with ASE's and an ASE like this is a 4-8x premium. Sure, these aren't ASE's and don't have the big collector base but I'd think I could pull a 2-3× premium for this one.

Now you may have me wanting to test my theory but I like it too much to not want to keep it around for a while at least.
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 Posted 04/18/2016  09:23 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add wonghinghi to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
This is a very modern MTT restrike about 1960s, it is either H60 or H61a to me. The coin is not circulated definitely. It was most likely sold as souvenir by bullion price from the Austrian mint.
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Thanks wong.

And going by sold toned modern restrike listings on the bay they go between $50-$150 and mine has better color that all of them. Even the $150 one. Even if that one was a fluke I'm sure I could get $80+ for mine with this kind of color and eye appeal.
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