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When Will The Native American Dollar End?

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 Posted 05/03/2016  12:25 am Show Profile   Bookmark this topic Add Squishchin Chubbs to your friends list Get a Link to this Message Number of Subscribers

This year 2016 is the last year for the Presidential dollar (for now at least), and there also is the new Code Talkers design on the Sacagawea dollar this year. I like the designs and they are cool, unique coins, and I like what their designs symbolize. I'm just wondering: what's next?

Does anybody on here have any insight about the future of this denomination?

Personally, I'd like to see a new static design on the small dollar, with the Statue of Liberty reverse from the presidentials on the obverse (the date replacing "$1" and "In God We Trust" and "Liberty" replacing E Pluribus Unum) and the 2000-2008 eagle reverse back on again (and no more lame edge inscriptions to be nearly worn off in 5-10 years.)
That's just my opinion, so tell what you think should happen. Get rid of the denomination altogether? Go back to a large dollar? I don't know.
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 Posted 05/03/2016  12:35 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add hcmusicguy to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Going back to the large (a la Ike) dollar would never fly nowadays.
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Yea' I think it's a shame. I wish we could keep the large dollar, just make it a bit smaller and maybe with the help of other metals, lighter too. But as usual, public stigma and the vending machine lobby have to say otherwise, lol.
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I think we should start honoring white American men, not Indian tribal women. Perhaps have Andrew Jackson or George Wallace on the coins. Or at least not an Indian.
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 Posted 05/03/2016  06:53 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add carholme to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I see from the above post, it is written by a "valued member"! I sure hope that this is not an example of what is valued on this forum.

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I see from the above post, it is written by a "valued member"! I sure hope that this is not an example of what is valued on this forum.

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I was pretty sure it was sarcasm, personally. Unfortunately, I don't think CCF has a sarcasm smiley.

(Though I still have to agree that, even if we only consider "Indian tribal women", there are surely much better candidates than Sacagawea, whose "fame" is an incident of history. How about Wilma Mankiller?)
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I'd really like to see Frank Gasparro's original Liberty design become a reality.
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I'd really like to see Frank Gasparro's original Liberty design become a reality.
This but in the Sacagawea dollar composition would be perfect, I agree.

The SBA dollar composition (which is, IIRC, what the design was intended for) would just have everyone mistaking it for a quarter (perhaps more so today, when there are so many different quarters).

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At this point with all the state, territory, bicentennial, and eagle quarters circulating it is not to clear how a quarter should look like. Although I'm thinking the Queen and a giant 10 would give most people a clue.

Still this Australian dime passed quite easily as quarter.
(This was before there were ATB Quarters, muddling the situation further.)
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Well, the 2 "white American men" at the center of that story, would have died, on more than one occasion if not for Sacagawea. That important historical journey would have just utterly failed.

I do like the coin and the designs, but the public does not seem to like using dollar coins, regardless of size, composition, or design.
It's longevity will probably be when they run out of new design ideas.
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The operative law appears to be here:

https://www.congress.gov/bill/110th...esultIndex=1

Which doesn't appear to provide an end date, merely requiring each reverse design to be issued for a 1 year period and giving suggestions:



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(D) Reverse design selection.--The designs
selected for the reverse of the coins described under
this subsection--
(i) shall be chosen by the Secretary after
consultation with the Committee on Indian Affairs
of the Senate, the Congressional Native American
Caucus of the House of Representatives, the
Commission of Fine Arts, and the National Congress
of American Indians;
(ii) shall be reviewed by the Citizens
Coinage Advisory Committee;
(iii) may depict individuals and events such
as--
(I) the creation of Cherokee
written language;
(II) the Iroquois Confederacy;
(III) Wampanoag Chief Massasoit;
(IV) the `Pueblo Revolt';
(V) Olympian Jim Thorpe;
(VI) Ely S. Parker, a general on
the staff of General Ulysses S. Grant
and later head of the Bureau of Indian
Affairs; and
(VII) code talkers who served the
United States Armed Forces during World
War I and World War II; and
(iv) in the case of a design depicting the
contribution of an individual Native American to
the development of the United States and the
history of the United States, shall not depict the
individual in a size such that the coin could be
considered to be a `2-headed' coin.

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Does anybody on here have any insight about the future of this denomination?

The legislation authorizing the Native American dollar designs did not specify an expiration date for the program - at this point it is open-ended.

The law does specify that after the conclusion of the Presidential dollar series (this year), all $1 coins will revert back to the "Sacagawea design" on the obverse.

So, it would appear that the Native American $1 series could go on for a good number of years!


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I've been spending some Prez and Sac dollars I've accumulated. It's actually pretty quick and painless for small transactions. Kind of surprised these never caught on. With that said I'm not a huge fan of the design on any of the small dollar coins.
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I've been spending some Prez and Sac dollars I've accumulated. It's actually pretty quick and painless for small transactions. Kind of surprised these never caught on.


That's easy... Why would the coin be popular if we are going to continue to make $1 bills... If the Government would stop printing bills and instead go to using $1 coins not only would it save taxpayer money but force people use them...
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I see from the above post, it is written by a "valued member"! I sure hope that this is not an example of what is valued on this forum.

Well, I personally value sarcasm and humor.

I personally love the Sacagawea dollar series. So long as they can continue to come up with legitimate depictions for the reverse, I see no need for it to end. However, I would like the edge lettering to come to an end.

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The law does specify that after the conclusion of the Presidential dollar series (this year), all $1 coins will revert back to the "Sacagawea design" on the obverse.

It also specifies that the number to be struck for circulation should be a set percentage of the number of president dollars struck. Well since after this year that number is zero, a percentage of zero is also zero so NO Sec/NA dollars can be made for circulation after this year. (The law DOES allow them to be struck as numismatic coins for collectors though.)
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