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I have not yet received the coin, so the pictures are all I can give you for now. What do you think about it?   |
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Pillar of the Community
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I'd be leary of any out of focus Trade dollars in 2x2's bought online. It looks questionable to me. |
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Pillar of the Community
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The phots are not good enough to make a determination.
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Bedrock of the Community
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I am nor getting a good felling on this one.
Better pictures ... when you get the coin
Weight and magnet test will be a good start when you get it.
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Pillar of the Community
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I don't see any dead giveaway that it is fake from a cursory view but on the good counterfeits you need to see the fine details of the coin, which you can't in those blurry shots taken through a flip. I really hope it is a real one, but Trade dollars are among the most heavily counterfeited US coins. Unless you really know what you are doing this is a coin type that should be bought in a slab. |
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Not real IMO. "They" have a tough time with the reeding. It appears most of the reeding is absent on the reverse - a good clue. PG
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Fake. The denticles or lack of are a dead giveaway.
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It appears most of the reeding is absent on the reverse - a good clue. I think you mean denticles, not reeds (reeding). I agree with you that the missing denticles on the reverse are a clear sign that the coin is not authentic. The seller, in the listing, says this coin is the "extremly (sic) rare obverse and reverse 2", and that is written on the 2x2. It is an obverse 1 and reverse 1, so that is definitely not as described, and this fact should make it much easier to get your money back. In the future, if in doubt, post your question here before you bid on it or buy it. Show your financial support of the Coin Community Family (click here)See my topic on Mexican Numismatic Medals (click here)Edited by nss-52
08/16/2016 08:06 am
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Pillar of the Community
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Seller had already been tagged with two neg's for selling counterfeits. That would have prevented me from bidding.
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Pillar of the Community
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The disappearing denticles, the granular surfaces, and the softness of the LIBERTY banner are all signs that this is not likely genuine.
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Seller had already been tagged with two neg's for selling counterfeits. In both listings the seller disclosed that some of the coins were "copy" coins. When a seller sells copies, they run the risk of running into buyers that do not read the listing, can't recognize a copy from the photos, then are disappointed to find that the coins are not genuine, and leave negative feedback that implies that the seller was trying to sell them as genuine coins (which in this case does not appear to be true). Yes, ebay has a policy against selling replica coins, but some sellers ignore the policy and then pay the "price" for it. In my opinion, neither the negatively worded positive feedback comment, or the negative feedback comment was fully deserved by this seller for those listings. ------- In this listing for the Trade dollar, the seller IS TRYING to sell this as a genuine coin, and with incorrect obverse and reverse types. So, should this seller get a negative feedback for this particular listing? Does it depend on the seller knowing they are selling a fake? Does this seller know they are selling a fake? It would be easy for then to determine the correct obverse and reverse types, but so could the buyer. Show your financial support of the Coin Community Family (click here)See my topic on Mexican Numismatic Medals (click here) |
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Glad I am following this thread as I have another clue to look for on these! You definitely need to contact the seller right away after receiving the coin, or even now if he hasn't sent it yet. Tell him you believe it is a counterfeit and request a refund. Don't start out accusatory. Treat it like he genuinely thought it was real. For one, there is a chance he does think that but more importantly you don't want to put him on the defensive as it will be much easier to get your refund without a fight if you don't get into a heated discussion. Assuming he gives the refund without a fight and is polite then I wouldn't give him a negative. If he fights you on it then open a case with ebay and you will almost certainly win. In that case definitely leave negative feedback. Don't open a case immediately though as simply opening the case has an effect on his seller rating. Being a full time seller of items on ebay I know that I am much more willing to work with someone who approaches me directly with a problem instead of starting off by opening a case. |
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Posted 08/16/2016 12:04 am
