Coin Community Family of Web Sites
Shop CCF Members on eBay! Specializing in Modern Numismatics Coin, Banknote and Medal Collectors's Online Mall 300,000 items to help build your collection! Royal Canadian Mint products, Canadian, Polish, American, and world coins and banknotes. Vancouvers #1 Coin and Paper Money Dealer Shop for APMEX Bullion on eBay!








Username:
Password:
Save Password
Forgot your Password?


This page may contain links that result in small commissions to keep this free site up and running.

Welcome Guest! Registering and/or logging in will remove the anchor (bottom) ads. It's Free!

The "american Innovation $1 Coin Act"

To participate in the forum you must log in or register.
Author Previous TopicReplies: 78 / Views: 11,768Next Topic
Page: of 6
Moderator
Learn More...
jbuck's Avatar
United States
187446 Posts
 Posted 09/20/2016  2:05 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add jbuck to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
The planchets of all coins, except for the cent, are punched and created by the Mint from rolled strip.

The rolled strip is provided from two sources, Olin Brass in East Alton, IL and PMX Industries in Cedar Rapids, IA. Nothing in Indiana.

As far as I know, the coil strip for the golden baby dollars only comes from Olin Brass, which would give Illinois the advantage for a continued one dollar coin.
Pillar of the Community
UltraRant's Avatar
Norway
1358 Posts
 Posted 09/20/2016  2:18 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add UltraRant to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Of course they will then circulate. If we replaced euro coins with paper notes, they will also circulate. Not because Euro-people suddenly love Euro notes, but because they're forced to use them. I'm not sure if Americans will be more displeased with the disappearance of the dollar note or the mandatory usage of the dollar coin. But for now, I stick with my statement: Americans simply seem to hate dollar coins (at least the large majority does).
Pillar of the Community
Kefiroth's Avatar
United States
1431 Posts
 Posted 09/20/2016  2:25 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Kefiroth to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
No more changing designs. No more edge-mintmarks/dates.

If you must keep making Dollar coins, go back to the original 2000 Sacagawea design and leave it at that. That was a good coin.
Moderator
Learn More...
jbuck's Avatar
United States
187446 Posts
 Posted 09/20/2016  2:33 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add jbuck to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply

Quote:
If we replaced euro coins with paper notes, they will also circulate.
That would be going backwards.


Quote:
Americans simply seem to hate dollar coins (at least the large majority does).
That may be true within our numismatic bubble (we love them or hate them), but most people I ask (these are not coin people) are indifferent. They really could not care less and think I am weird for asking.
Bedrock of the Community
Learn More...
CelticKnot's Avatar
United States
12804 Posts
 Posted 09/20/2016  2:34 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add CelticKnot to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply

Quote:
Nothing in Indiana.

Yes, I went back and re-read the article and it does say the co-sponsors are from IL, not IN. My bad, thanks for the correction.
Moderator
Learn More...
jbuck's Avatar
United States
187446 Posts
 Posted 09/20/2016  2:36 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add jbuck to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Thank you for checking. I have not gone back to read the original link and research the bill yet.
Bedrock of the Community
Conder101's Avatar
United States
17884 Posts
 Posted 09/20/2016  4:14 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Conder101 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I'm with Jbuck, the only way I would approve of this is if it had a provision to eliminate the dollar note (and it doesn't). Otherwise it should be a non-starter. At current drawdown rates there are enough small dollars in storage to supply the demand for the next 19 years. There is no need to add to that. If they eliminated the dollar note there is probably only enough for two maybe three years. Maybe even less.
Pillar of the Community
Darth Morgan's Avatar
United States
2815 Posts
 Posted 09/20/2016  5:57 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Darth Morgan to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I think the bill is ridiculous since the dollar note isn't going away any time soon. Otherwise, it would be just like the various quarters programs with way too many designs. I don't like what they have in mind either. A new rendition of Lady Liberty is what I'd like to see, along with a 38.1 mm diameter. I know . . I know. I'm a dreamer.
Pillar of the Community
coinsearcher83's Avatar
United States
1358 Posts
 Posted 09/20/2016  6:05 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add coinsearcher83 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
The article calls them "$1 numismatic coins" so I'm guessing they're going to be NIFC. Just another way to suck money from the collectors.
Pillar of the Community
TheForce's Avatar
United States
4867 Posts
 Posted 09/20/2016  6:18 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add TheForce to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I think it's just a way to keep mint and proof sets bloated so they can continue to sell them at inflated prices.
Pillar of the Community
Learn More...
BStrauss3's Avatar
United States
4587 Posts
 Posted 09/20/2016  6:23 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add BStrauss3 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Stupidity. Zero chance of getting this passed before the new Congress.

Hot off Thomas, here's the text

Especially note the provision allowing the secretary to mint his/her choice of Presidential dollars if it's not feasible to mint these starting in 2017.


Quote:

114th CONGRESS
2d Session
H. R. 6025

To require the Secretary of the Treasury to mint coins in recognition of American Innovation and significant innovation and pioneering efforts of individuals or groups from each of the 50 States, the District of Columbia, and the United States territories, to promote the importance of innovation in the United States, the District of Columbia, and the United States territories, and for other purposes.

IN THE HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES
September 14, 2016

Mr. Himes (for himself, Mr. Dold, Ms. Moore, Mr. Buchanan, Mr. Foster, and Mr. Emmer of Minnesota) introduced the following bill; which was referred to the Committee on Financial Services

A BILL

To require the Secretary of the Treasury to mint coins in recognition of American Innovation and significant innovation and pioneering efforts of individuals or groups from each of the 50 States, the District of Columbia, and the United States territories, to promote the importance of innovation in the United States, the District of Columbia, and the United States territories, and for other purposes.

Be it enacted by the Senate and House of Representatives of the United States of America in Congress assembled,

SECTION 1. Short title.
This Act may be cited as the " American Innovation $1 Coin Act".

SEC. 2. American Innovation $1 Coin program.
Section 5112 of title 31, United States Code, is amended by inserting after subsection (v) the following new subsection:

"(w) Redesign and issuance of $1 coins honoring innovation, innovators, and pioneers from each State, the District of Columbia, and each territory.—

"(1) REDESIGN BEGINNING IN 2017.—

"(A) IN GENERAL.—Notwithstanding subsection (d)(1) and subsection (d)(2) and in accordance with the provisions of this subsection, during the 14-year period beginning on January 1, 2017 (or such later date as provided under subparagraph (B)(ii)), the Secretary of the Treasury shall mint and issue $1 coins to be known as ' American Innovation $1 coins', that—

"(i) have designs on the obverse selected in accordance with paragraph (2)(A); and

"(ii) have a design on the reverse selected in accordance with paragraph (2)(B).

"(B) CONTINUITY PROVISIONS.—

"(i) IN GENERAL.—Notwithstanding subparagraph (A), the Secretary shall continue to mint and issue $1 coins honoring Native Americans and their contributions in accordance with subsection (r).

"(ii) FIRST YEAR.—Notwithstanding subparagraph (A), if the Secretary finds that it is not feasible and cost-effective to mint and issue American Innovation $1 coins beginning in 2017, the Secretary may mint and issue $1 coins bearing the designs of such Presidential $1 coins issued pursuant to subsection (n) that the Secretary determines to be appropriate. If any such Presidential $1 coin design bore the inscription 'In God We Trust' incused on the edge, the Secretary shall modify the design to place that inscription on the coin's obverse only, and such modification may be done without review by the Citizens Coinage Advisory Committee nor consultation with the Commission of Fine Arts.

"(C) DEFINITION OF TERRITORY.—For purposes of this subsection, the term 'territory' means the Commonwealth of Puerto Rico, Guam, American Samoa, the United States Virgin Islands, and the Commonwealth of the Northern Mariana Islands.

"(2) DESIGN REQUIREMENTS.—Notwithstanding subsection (d)(1) and subsection (d)(2), the $1 coins issued in accordance with paragraph (1)(A) shall meet the following design requirements:

"(A) COIN OBVERSE.—The design on the obverse of each coin issued under this subsection shall contain—

"(i) a design symbolic of Liberty; and

"(ii) the inscription 'In God We Trust'.

"(B) COIN REVERSE.—The design on the reverse of each coin issued under this subsection shall bear the following:

"(i) An image or images emblematic of one of the following from one of the 50 States, the District of Columbia, or the territories of the United States:

"(I) A significant innovation.
"(II) An innovator or pioneer.
"(III) A group of innovators or pioneers.

"(ii) The name of the State, the District of Columbia, or territory, as applicable.

"(iii) The inscriptions '$1' and 'United States of America'.

"(C) EDGE-INCUSED INSCRIPTIONS.—

"(i) IN GENERAL.—The inscription of the year of minting or issuance of the coin and the inscription 'E Pluribus Unum' shall be edge-incused into the coin.

"(ii) PRESERVATION OF DISTINCTIVE EDGE.—The edge-incusing of the inscriptions under clause (i) on coins issued under this subsection shall be done in a manner that preserves the distinctive edge of the coin so that the denomination of the coin is readily discernible, including by individuals who are blind or visually impaired.

"(3) ISSUANCE OF COINS COMMEMORATING INNOVATION, INNOVATORS, AND PIONEERS.—

"(A) ORDER OF ISSUANCE.—The coins issued under this subsection commemorating either an innovation, an individual innovator or pioneer, or a group of innovators or pioneers, from each State, the District of Columbia, or a territory shall be issued in alphabetic order of the State, the District, or territory represented, starting with Alabama.

"(B) ISSUANCE OF COINS COMMEMORATING FOUR INNOVATIONS, INNOVATORS, AND PIONEERS DURING EACH OF 14 YEARS.—

"(i) IN GENERAL.—Four $1 coin designs as described in this subsection shall be issued during each year of the period referred to in paragraph (1) until one coin featuring one innovation, an individual innovator or pioneer, or a group of innovators or pioneers, from each of the States, the District of Columbia, and territories has been issued.

"(ii) NUMBER OF COIN DESIGNS IN EACH YEAR.—The Secretary shall prescribe, on the basis of such factors as the Secretary determines to be appropriate, the number of $1 coins that shall be issued with each of the designs selected for each year of the period referred to in paragraph (1).

"(iii) APPLICATION IN EVENT OF THE ADMISSION OF ADDITIONAL STATES.—Notwithstanding clause (i), if any additional State or territory is admitted into the Union before the end of the 14-year period referred to in paragraph (1), the Secretary of the Treasury may issue $1 coins, in accordance with this subsection during any one year of such 14-year period, in addition to the four $1 coins issued during such year in accordance with clause (i).

"(iv) APPLICATION IN THE EVENT OF INDEPENDENCE.—Notwithstanding paragraph (3)(B)(i), if any State or territory becomes independent or otherwise ceases to be a State or territory of the United States before $1 coins are minted pursuant to this subsection, the subsection shall cease to apply with respect to such State or territory.

"(4) SELECTION OF CONCEPT AND DESIGN.—

"(A) CONCEPT.—With respect to each State, the District of Columbia, and territory to be honored with a coin under this subsection, the selection of the significant innovation, innovator or pioneer, or group of innovators or pioneers to be borne on the reverse of such coin shall be made by the Secretary of the Treasury, after consultation with the Governor or other chief executive of the State, the District of Columbia, or territory with respect to which a coin is to be issued under this subsection.

"(B) DESIGN.—Each of the designs required under this subsection shall be selected by the Secretary after—

"(i) consultation with—

"(I) the Governor or other chief executive of the State, the District of Columbia, or territory with respect to which a coin is to be issued under this subsection; and
"(II) the Commission of Fine Arts; and
"(ii) review by the Citizens Coinage Advisory Committee.

"(C) SELECTION AND APPROVAL PROCESS.—Designs for $1 coins under this subsection may be submitted in accordance with the design selection and approval process developed by the Secretary in the sole discretion of the Secretary.

"(D) STANDARDS.—Because it is important that the Nation's coinage and currency bear dignified designs of which the citizens of the United States can be proud, the Secretary shall not select any frivolous or inappropriate design for any $1 coin minted under this subsection.

"(E) PROHIBITION ON CERTAIN REPRESENTATIONS.—No head and shoulders portrait or bust of any person, living or dead, and no portrait of a living person may be included in the design of any coin issued under this subsection.

"(5) TREATMENT AS NUMISMATIC ITEMS.—For purposes of sections 5134 and 5136, all $1 coins minted under this subsection shall be considered to be numismatic items.

"(6) ISSUANCE OF NUMISMATIC COINS.—The Secretary may mint and issue such number of $1 coins of each design selected under this subsection in uncirculated and proof qualities as the Secretary determines to be appropriate.

"(7) TERMINATION OF PROGRAM.—The issuance of coins under this subsection shall terminate when one innovation, an individual innovator or pioneer, or a group of innovators or pioneers, from each State, the District of Columbia, and territory has been honored and may not be resumed except by an Act of Congress.".


The typo is in the original text - (ii) s/b (III) in (4)(b)(i)


-----Burton
50+ year / Life / Emeritus ANA member (joined 12/1/1973)
Life member: Numismatics International, CONECA
Member: TNA, FtWCC, NETCC, EveryCountry (online) coin club
Owned by three cats and a wife of 40+ years (joined 1983)

Author: 3rd Edition of the Sample Slabs book, https://www.sampleslabs.info/
Pillar of the Community
UltraRant's Avatar
Norway
1358 Posts
 Posted 09/20/2016  7:10 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add UltraRant to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply

Quote:
That may be true within our numismatic bubble (we love them or hate them), but most people I ask (these are not coin people) are indifferent. They really could not care less and think I am weird for asking.


How about spending them? I have a nice stack of presidential and Sacagawea dollars here and I tried to spend them on two occasions. One occasion they were plainly refused, the other one the cashier thought I tried to fool her with fake Monopoly money. So to me, having a $1 coin means being stuck with a $1 coin (except for the Washington Metro card, which explicitly accepts them), and the idea that $1 coins are unpopular and even unknown in the States. It might have to do with that experiment being in Texas, but still... Texas was also the only place where I ever encountered a $2 note in the wild, by the way. Now talking about making new coins... How about a $2 coin?
Pillar of the Community
Bryan78's Avatar
United States
1068 Posts
 Posted 09/20/2016  8:38 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Bryan78 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply

Quote:
I have a nice stack of presidential and Sacagawea dollars here and I tried to spend them on two occasions. One occasion they were plainly refused, the other one the cashier thought I tried to fool her with fake Monopoly money.


That is because our Public education system stinks... It has for decades...
Bedrock of the Community
Earle42's Avatar
United States
10029 Posts
 Posted 09/20/2016  9:34 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Earle42 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Anther ridiculous attempt to waste taxpayer money.


Quote:
No, a complacent majority just prefers the one dollar note. Get rid of it and the dollar coins will circulate


No doubt they would circulate. At the cost of Democracy being dealt another fatal blow.


*** Removed by the Staff. Let's keep the overt political commentary in General Discussion ***
How much squash could a Sasquatch squash if a Sasquatch would squash squash?
Download and read: Grading the graders
Costly TPG ineptitude and No FG Kennedy halves
https://ln5.sync.com/dl/7ca91bdd0/w...i3b-rbj9fir2
Pillar of the Community
United States
1180 Posts
 Posted 09/20/2016  10:10 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add LibertyEagle20 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I don't understand why they are still making these. If there's a ton sitting in bank vaults why don't they just use those and save money on making new $1 coins?
  Previous TopicReplies: 78 / Views: 11,768Next Topic
Page: of 6

To participate in the forum you must log in or register.



    




Disclaimer: While a tremendous amount of effort goes into ensuring the accuracy of the information contained in this site, Coin Community assumes no liability for errors. Copyright 2005 - 2026 Coin Community Family- all rights reserved worldwide. Use of any images or content on this website without prior written permission of Coin Community or the original lender is strictly prohibited.
Contact Us  |  Advertise Here  |  Privacy Policy / Terms of Use

Coin Community Forum © 2005 - 2026 Coin Community Forums
It took 0.45 seconds to rattle this change. Forums