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Need Help Identifie This Ancient Coins

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 Posted 09/21/2016  11:19 am Show Profile   Bookmark this topic Add Vuletica to your friends list Get a Link to this Message Number of Subscribers
My friend got this coins in Lebanon 10 years ago. Can somebody help identifie them and tell me if they are valuable how can I check if they are real or fake.

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 Posted 09/21/2016  11:45 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add CGCoins to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I am going to lean towards these being tourist fakes unfortunately.
Appears to be similar methods of manufacturing(casting bubbles) on all the examples.
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 Posted 09/21/2016  12:25 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Finn235 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Second is supposed to be a silver (I assume) tetradrachm of Alexander the Great. We can write that one off as fake right away.

That doesn't bode well for the rest, I am afraid. The first one (Justinian follis) I think is a reproduction--not a copy because I have never seen an original with such crisp details while still having a worn, pitted appearance.

Second is Philip the Arab--same story, looks cast.

Not familiar with the last one (never really got into Greeks) but it doesn't look right either.
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 Posted 09/21/2016  3:15 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Bacchus2 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Yes - all are tourist copies.
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 Posted 09/21/2016  3:23 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add echizento to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I agree all tourist fakes.
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 Posted 09/24/2016  06:44 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add lucas6jackson to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I think if there were clearer images the opinions may change.
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 Posted 09/24/2016  08:46 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Bacchus2 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply

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I think if there were clearer images the opinions may change


The images are fine. They are clearly fakes. They couldn't look more fake even if they had "FAKE" stamped on them.
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 Posted 09/24/2016  09:04 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Spence to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
@lucas6jackson, first welcome to CCF. Second, perhaps you can explain a little bit why you think that clearer pictures would make a difference? The porous surfaces would seem to be a dead giveaway that these are castings.
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 Posted 09/24/2016  10:12 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add lucas6jackson to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
thanks for the welcome greeting

Everyone has their own views, I think that these pieces are real.
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 Posted 09/24/2016  11:03 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Spence to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Ok yep you absolutely are allowed your own view. What I'm trying to understand is what characteristics or details on these coins are driving your opinion and convincing you that they are real. I'm pushing you a little because some of the folks who have dismissed the OP's coins as being fakes are actually pretty knowledgeable about this stuff.

One of the characteristics that would seem to make these fake is the evidence of air bubbles on the surfaces of the coins. A second characteristic of fakes is very sharp details, despite a worn appearance. A third characteristic is a coin appearing in the wrong metal, especially one that is cheaper than the original (e.g. a silver coin that is make from a copper alloy).
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 Posted 09/24/2016  11:54 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add lucas6jackson to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Exactly "for these reasons that you mentioned I asked for a clear pictures!
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 Posted 09/24/2016  12:29 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Spence to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
ok, well hopefully @vuletica obliges with clearer pics.
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 Posted 10/07/2016  2:44 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Vuletica to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Thanks for discussion.
Unfortunately I can not post new photos, as my friend who owns coins got only some cheap mobile phone and he is too far from me. I will try next time when we meet to take photos.
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 Posted 10/07/2016  7:55 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Biancasdad to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Agree, no need for clearer pictures. Obvious, poorly made tourist fakes.

I have seen exact cast fakes of the first coin so many times it's like seeing reruns of old movies.

Here is the die match from FAC's fake reports, there are dozens with this die match.

http://www.forumancientcoins.com/fa...&cat=0&pos=4
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The last one is purporting to be a silver tetradrachm from Ionia, Smyrna. Yours is cast in bronze and isn't even close to the right style. Here is a real one for comparison.
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