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 Posted 11/06/2016  11:53 am Show Profile   Bookmark this topic Add twoods to your friends list Get a Link to this Message Number of Subscribers
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Hi everyone,

In a separate post the topic of young people in our hobby came up. From reading a response and other responses on this issue the general concensus seems to be that there aren't a lot a young people in, or entering our hobby.

My question is what can we do to pass our hobby on to the younger generation and introduce them to coin collecting, whether it be through events, or here on the forum.

It's a great hobby that I will want to pass on to my Son, and I would love to be involved more in sharing the hobby with others.
Any ideas?
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 Posted 11/06/2016  12:21 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add crazyglue to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I am not sure which post you are referencing in which this subject was discussed- so if I say anything that was already discussed, please fee free to skim through it and move to the next post.

I am not sure if more or less young people are entering the hobby because I am not that involved. I do feel that I know of no one young who has any interest in the hobby. That does not mean they don't exist-- they just are not in my circle of family and friends.

I am certain when I die my coins will be sold. That is fine with me, I am not bothered by the idea. Different subject.

For young people, I would certainly believe there are less entering the hobby.

I assume that the Statehood Quarters and all the other things the mint does to utterly annoy me are probably (possibly) good for the hobby and have generated some interest in younger people. If the appropriate number of them stick with it, then it may continue on for a few more decades.

But I take a pessimistic view overall. The issue is relevance. What you collect usually has to have some sort of trigger for you-- either you have a personal connection or a memory. Maybe not, but often.

I see the things people don't collect any more and reflect on what killed those hobbies. You can make all sorts of speculations on what killed stamps, baseball cards, glass bottles, and endless others.

In short, I don't know.

I will give one opinion I hold strongly- right or wrong. This is taken from my own observation.

More people collect something they can connect to (not all). Sure, some people collect ancient coins. But not nearly as many collect ancient coins as collect Roosevelt dimes. And I don't think it is only supply...but familiarity. Sure...I may have to buy an uncirculated 1946 S dime if I want one-- but I am very familiar with the dimes as a whole.

I don't see nearly as many people collecting V nickels or Buffalo nickels as Jeffersons. And Buffalo nickels are not a hard collection overall. Same with Indian cents. Although it is a harder collection-- I don't see as much interest as them as I did in the 1980's, as an example.

I firmly believe that interest in Indian cents, Buffalo nickels, V nickels, Liberty Quarters, etc. will go the way of other even older series. Only die hard collectors will go for them and the supply will increase over time more than the demand.

I would guess- to a kid starting coin collecting today- they would not have nearly as much interest in anything they can't relate to at least somewhat.

So as cash becomes less and less used on a regular basis, perhaps the younger people will have less and less familiarity and connection, and less and less will collect.

I had a garage sale the other day...nothing was priced in anything other than 25 cent increments and amazingly although I made $800, I did not end the day with a single cent, nickel or dime. No one paid with anything but bills or quarters.


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 Posted 11/06/2016  12:23 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add crazyglue to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Sorry, in my large wandering post I forgot to add how to generate interest in younger people.

One thing my Dad did that worked for me-- he gave me a bucket of about 10,000 wheat cents and a Lincoln folder and then went away.

I spent countless hours with that.

I know there are some here that do a lot to involve youth, so I will defer to them on what works best other than my note above of giving them a challenge.
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 Posted 11/06/2016  12:43 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add twoods to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply

Hi crazyglue,

Thanks, lots of great insight, also, bit of a coincidence between how we both started collecting, you were given a bucket of wheat pennies to sort - in my neighbourhood I found a shoebox of about 500 pennies, took them home, sorted, and it began my collecting in the hobby...
So possibly we should hold a contest of some sort, where a young person wins a good quantity of coins to sort through and let them discover the hobby as you and I did...
Also good point on familiarity with collecting, I think you are right, for a lot of people collecting is ephemeral, taking them back to a certain point in time
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There's a common thread to how one got started collecting.

Mine was, as a young boy of about 6, my Father every Friday night (circa 1965), would bring home the shop's 'money box', where loose change including very worn Vicky, Edward and KGV quarters and dimes would be found.

My older brother and I would grab a few, spend minutes, sometimes an hour or two trying to read the worn out dates and then off to the private collection, where I would grab the household's roll of scotch tape and tape those suckers in my looseleaf book.

I don't have that book anymore but my older brother still has his.

And for a quick laugh, when I was very young, I once had a Whitmann album KGVI collection of mostly circulated quality, but one day when I was without any funds (as my allowance had run out) and I was craving a few giant Jersey milk chocolate bars, I broke out those worn out quarters and went straight to our local Smoke shop and very happily spent my quarter collection on many candies and treats.

My brother still has a good laugh about that one.
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 Posted 11/06/2016  1:54 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add crazyglue to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
twoods and doubleeagle59- it does appear we all got started in much the same way.

twoods- that isn't a bad idea about a contest. I don't have a lot of canadian coins except a few olympic silver commemoratives my Mom gave me many years ago. I do have a good pile of tokens (mostly american) I could donate.
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Well... compared to some flashy hobbies involving high tech stuff, coin collecting sounds quite dull, doesn't it? I bet most sheeple rather get their hands on an iPhone than a gold coin.

Apart from that, in order to even just get anywhere these days near completing what kind of set of whatever, you need money. Preferably a lot of it. It used to be the 'hobby of kings' and it still is, in a way. So there's a big chance that people won't get interested before they actually can afford to have this hobby, which is when they have a proper job, which probably isn't before they're 25 or so, if at all.

For many years I just had to settle for what I could find from circulation and, when traveling abroad, for a local coin set as souvenir (I still do that). Not really the stuff you post for 'guess the price' or that raises a lot of questions, is it? It's only been in the last few years that I actually have the finances to get my hands on some expensive stuff.

Anyway, I do believe that this might be two of the reasons why young people rather go for something else as a hobby: too expensive and just not as cool as some mainstream stuff.
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My father is in his eighties and still collects coins. I am one of five children and two of us collect. I have three adult children and one is really into it, another who dabbles in currency collection. The other not.

I wonder if there is a correlation between a child becoming a collector if a parent or close relative is. Maybe many young people are not interested because the parents were not either.

I think part of my early interest was from being in the Scout movement and needing a hobby to get my collectors badge. I don't see as many children in Girl Guides and Scouts as there used to be. There are more activities and pastimes out there to syphon off a child's time and money than in years gone by it seems to me.

I have a granddaughter almost six. I recently got her a blank album for nickels. She comes over about once a week and I give her a nickel every time she visits (I keep track of what years she is missing). Will she become a collector? I don't know. She does like to go with me to the bank to get rolls of coins to roll search since she knows they have a candy jar at the bank!
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Just going by who I saw in the recent coin show, I'd say most collectors in my area are white men forty and up. I did see a few children, but they were with their dad, who had a table at the show.
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 Posted 11/06/2016  4:14 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add twslisa to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
To be fair though, I was there on a weekday. Maybe the kiddos showed up on Saturday when school was out.
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twslisa - Must agree, I'd say 70% of the usual crowd at my LCS are white males over the age of 40.
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A lot of antique & collectable segments are a lot worse off than coins. I go to a few estate auctions and the average age has to be 70+. Nobody wants their deceased relative's collection of Hummel figurines.

A lot of younger coin collectors these days never set foot into a coin shop or coin show so they are harder to see and count.
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Something that I have been considering for my granddaughter is buying her a Jefferson nickel album. The Jefferson nickel dates back from 1938 to 2003, but the coin is still in heavy circulation. I would buy the key dates as the starter coins, and the other coins she could find in circulation. Up front I would let her know that once the album is completed, I would like to buy it for $70.00 if she wanted to sell.
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 Posted 11/06/2016  9:30 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Coinfrog to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Joe2007 - You might be right about younger collectors. I know there are tons of them of this forum alone.
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Well here's where I come In,a young collector. A better known one in my area, at my LCS's costas coins and currency and morton grove coins, they know me from me coming in ALL the time and for being in two magazines I am well known.Someday I hope to be a Pro, and I am on instagram for coins, and a TON of kids are doing it on instagram. Some on this forum too. But Yeah! I want more of us in the hobby! I have been teaching my cousins and neighnors and some look promising!!
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Great job raising awareness Dustin.

I have been going to coin shows for nearly 40 years and even back then in my 20's most customers / dealers were white men 40 and up.

There is a lot to learn just to become an educated collector but especially a dealer today with more counterfeits showing up all over the place. The education you would need to be a successful dealer doesn't come in a few years unless you start VERY young.

We have some promising YN's here in the forums that may make a great dealer before their hair turns gray
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