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I have been looking for this coin raw for about 47yrs but no one knew of the coin. so here's what it looks like!  Edit It page #221 A guide book of Lincoln Cent (whitman)Q David Bowers so if anyone finds one in au or better please e-mail me I have to 2 coin that could be this in olive oil I will post them as soon as they are done. Edited by amac44
04/10/2008 03:51 am
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Just be careful with posts like this. It is a violation of copyright law to post pictures and text that are actually of the pages in a book. That is unless you have the permission of the author or the publisher. It is not likely that Whitman would give such permissions.
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04/09/2008 3:16 pm
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I spent 2 hours looking thur past post of other folks w/book pages posted of copyright protected stuff like my 1st post  not one had a post like FIR put below mine am I just special? so here's edited page I removed.  If I may have missed one FIR please show me one were you warned a member. * yesterday I'm David He said if will teach anyone he doesn't mind and Whitman don't look for coin forum unless they are reported? Edited by amac44
04/10/2008 5:09 pm
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No,
I just didnt notice the others. I don't waste my time looking for them. Yours was there and it was the first I've seen.
The fact is that it is against the law no matter who does it. So for all who post pictures from books, be aware that you are in violation of copyright and that if a publisher, like Whitman, with deep pockets, wants to bust chops, as is said in Brooklyn. You can get a pretty nasty letter from an attorney. And in case you are interested, they can track you down based upon something called an IP number.
So Amac...you are not special in that regard. I only saw your post and used it as a warning to all.
Thanks. The best thing to do for all participants on this or any other forum is to refrain from posting pictures from books on the forum unless you are the publisher of the book.
Thanks,
Bill
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04/12/2008 3:49 pm
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Well just talk to Q and he will tell you what I posted. I sure you see him in the halls,you know my name ask him.
I know that copywriter's are protected unless its reported it won't be known.
and just give folks a taste of the book may sell more books for Whitman.
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Bedrock of the Community
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Looks like 1956D-1MM-008 to me?  |
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As Copyrights go, you cannot just use any piece of copyright information UNLESS...... you reference it as to whom the copyright is from & acknowledge the original author. That is the legal way of using someone elses material. This is just basic journalism knowledge. The picture posted will become legal if Amac goes back and refrences it.....simple as that. This is something I know from doing journalism. The only way a picture/article CANNOT be used, is if it specifically states the need of permission of the original or copyright holder, otherwise it's all fair game as referenced.
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coffeegod, It is the case with any Whitman publication, that there is a statement on the copyright page that says ..."No part of this book may be reproduced or copied in any form without written permission from the publisher"...Oh, and by the way Amac,...Dave Bowers is not the publisher and he couldn't give permission to use the photos in a book published by Whitman. If you have, for example, the 2008 RedBook, you will see that statement inside, right after the Title page. Referencing the source is not the criteria when this statement is present in a published work. So there is no legal way to copy these pictures from a Whitman source other than to have a letter of permission from the publisher. Thanks Again... Bill Edited by foundinrolls
04/13/2008 4:53 pm
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Great discussion - and one that comes up in my line of work from time to time so I'll throw in my limited understanding of this complex topic. Sorry to say coffeegod that you are incorrect on this one - simply referencing the item is not the same as getting permission to republish the document. Under the fair use laws, you CAN reproduce short parts of a book or other copyrighted information for educational purposes. Like when a teacher hands out a packet of information taken from published sources. This use is OK in small groups but does NOT apply to the internet where anyone can read it. For this kind of use you must secure permission from the copyright holder (who may or may not be the author). This generally involves filling out a form and, someitmes, paying a small fee for use. Bill is 100% correct, the original author cannot grant you copyright. In fact, if the the original author signs over the copyright, they need to request permission before republishing. This site has more information that you'll probably ever want: https://www.copyright.comBut back to the coins. amac are they out of their oil bath and ready to have they photos taken?  Edited by patrick
04/14/2008 07:29 am
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Moral to the story is simply not to publish information directly from books or other websites without direct written permission. This is what copyright laws are for.
Anyone who has gone through the thousands of hours and thousands of dollars in expense it takes to write a book or publish a website would appreciate and respect the law governing this area. Publishing this information is hard work.
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Well CC if you want get down to law's that banners of metals is real against the law
Only US service men & woman who have been given then can display them and I am 100% sure you were not given them. I was awarded 4 of them and I know you were not even born for some of the ones you display
*In short you are disgracing the men&woman who have be awarded them
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04/14/2008 2:04 pm
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Look.... not to get into a heated debate again but, Patrick I know my English & Journalism Laws. Here's a couple of references to educate you. 1. Here's a good Reference Law & Regulation site. http://www.usq.edu.au/library/help/.../default.htma. quote another person word for word (direct quotation). It doesn't matter whether it is a phrase, sentence or paragraph, you will need to provide a reference from which it was taken. b. paraphrase or summarise. Ideas or data obtained from another writer must be referenced even if you have changed the wording and/or content c. use statistics. (eg population) d. use tables, figures, diagrams and appendices. The source of these must be acknowledged unless they are entirely from your own research work. e. use controversial facts, opinions, or a date which might be challenged. However, information of a general nature such as facts which are common knowledge eg the years of World War II do not need to be referenced. 2. Here's the UALR site. http://www.ualr.edu/copyright/articles/?ID=13I understand what your trying to say, but I'm sorry.... your wrong. It's not really a black & white area, there are overlapping principles involved. Amac..... I'm glad someone said something. I served five & took a few for my country which is where I'll stop. The only thing I can say though, is every soldier has their own story. |
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coffeegod, you're referencing academic sites dealing with the writing of academic papers. It's got nothing to do with what's going on here.
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Bobby...... I'm just responding like everyone else.... as well as responding to a previous comment made toward my first reply. It does apply.
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Very true bobby
its seam like anything I post 2 folks just jump me!
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