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beautiful au58. think I see rub on the talons and liberty's foot. very pretty though.
IN NECESSARIIS UNITAS - IN DUBIIS LIBERTAS - IN OMNIBUS CARITAS THE MAN IN THE ARENA, Theodore Roosevelt at the Sorbonne Paris on April 23, 1910: " It is not the critic who counts; not the man who points out how the strong man stumbles or where the doer of deeds could have done better. The credit belongs to the man who is actually in the arena, whose face is marred by dust and sweat and blood, who strives valiantly, who errs and comes up short again and again, because there is no effort without error or shortcoming, but who knows the great enthusiasms, the great devotions, who spends himself in a worthy cause; who, at the best, knows, in the end, the triumph of high achievement, and who, at the worst, if he fails, at least he fails while daring greatly, so that his place shall never be with those cold and timid souls who knew neither victory nor defeat." My coin website: https://fairfaxcoins.com |
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beautiful au58. think I see rub on the talons and liberty's foot. very pretty though. Thanks! In hand it has great quality. Nice cartwheel luster. I'm very happy with the coin. I rinsed it in acetone since it was in a pvc containing flip. In my album for now unless someone believes it to be fake. |
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In my album for now unless someone believes it to be fake. Im sorry to be the horses rear-end but I am convinced this coin isn't authentic. The counterfeit examples of these coins can be very deceiving even tricking experienced dealers. The reverse lettering on your coin is different when comparing to TPG coins. It's subtle but different. Compare 'E Pluribus Unum' and 'America' to a real example. '900' looks different as do the letters in 'Dollar'. I know I'm  but if you're informed now then maybe it can be returned. I'll admit I'm wrong but at least I'm providing some basis for why I think it's not genuine. If someone thinks it's real then I'd like to hear why. Edited by chesterb
07/29/2017 09:32 am
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I was originally convinced this was genuine, but after looking at your better photos, I have to agree with chesterb. The lines of the '900' on the reverse look too thin, and the loops of the 'S' in GRAINS look too open, especially the upper loop. It's a pretty tough call. If genuine, I would have said MS-62.
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Are there any tests that can be done on the coin to detect forgery?
I soaked it in acetone. Would a fake react to acetone differently? I assume if this is fake, then the toning would be artificial as well as the luster; both of which look fine in hand. I can return this coin in any event, but I want to be 100% certain before I go that route.
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07/29/2017 11:50 am
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Are there any tests that can be done on the coin to detect forgery? Certification. I still think it might be genuine. It can be very hard to tell nowadays. |
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Certification.
I still think it might be genuine. It can be very hard to tell nowadays. I intended to keep it raw for the album, but certification may be the route I choose to go. I have spent a lot of time looking at copies/counterfeits. I havent seen one like this one. It is tough to decide. Would a silver test provide any clues? |
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I'd hate to return it not knowing for sure, because it really is attractive. If it's counterfeit, it could easily be silver too. Maybe send it to ANACS for a relatively inexpensive authentication, and you could always break it out again for your album.
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Contact the seller and let him know that you have some concerns about the coin's authenticity, and would like to get the coin certified. If the coin is not genuine, you would like to return the coin for a refund. If the seller does not agree, return the coin now for a refund.
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I'd hate to return it not knowing for sure, because it really is attractive. If it's counterfeit, it could easily be silver too. Maybe send it to ANACS for a relatively inexpensive authentication, and you could always break it out again for your album. That is my concern..beautiful example if genuine. Quote:
Contact the seller and let him know that you have some concerns about the coin's authenticity, and would like to get the coin certified. If the coin is not genuine, you would like to return the coin for a refund. If the seller does not agree, return the coin now for a refund. He is willing to accept a refund. My one concern is the turnaround time for a TPG. Would anacs/NGC be faster than PCGS? I know theyd be cheaper, as I intend on cracking it out anyway. But if it takes a couple months to grade I dont want the paypal coverage to expire. Thanks for both of your advice! |
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ANACS would be the cheapest and fastest as a 5 day turn around is $29 plus shipping. If you ship Priorty, you can have the coin back in 10 days. If it did grade MS 62, you could make some easy money on a quick flip. I am at 58 with recent photos.
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07/30/2017 07:58 am
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 I would opt for this option. Good Luck!! |
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Steelers, I'll help and pay the grading fee if it comes back authentic. That only seems fair since I got you you into this mess.   |
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ANACS would be the cheapest and fastest as a 5 day turn around is $29 plus shipping. If you ship Priorty, you can have the coin back in 10 days. If it did grade MS 62, you could make some easy money on a quick flip. I am at 58 with recent photos. Thank you for this info! Quote:
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I'll help and pay the grading fee if it comes back authentic. That only seems fair since I got you you into this mess. Not your fault at all chester. If anything, thank you for your honest concern. I would be extremely disappointed if I found out later down the road this was a counterfeit coin. Wasn't exactly a cheap purchase. I will try to submit to ANACS. Hoping it comes back genuine and ends the saga. The seller has been extremely professional and offered to even pay the grading fees. He deals in Trade dollars, has a bunch of slabbed proof ones and is pretty confident it is genuine. I am hoping it is and I honestly don't see any malicious intent. I'll keep the results posted, and hope this could educate future collectors on the whole process. Edited by Steelers72
07/30/2017 10:10 am
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I used my Photo editing software to create an overlay. Layer 1 - known genuine coin. Layer 2 - your coin. Overlay - with differences noted.  layer 1  layer 2  overlay It is still possible that the photography has distorted the images, but it appears that there are some differences bwtween the two coins. |
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