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Thoughts on grade and problems? Thanks.   IN NECESSARIIS UNITAS - IN DUBIIS LIBERTAS - IN OMNIBUS CARITAS THE MAN IN THE ARENA, Theodore Roosevelt at the Sorbonne Paris on April 23, 1910: " It is not the critic who counts; not the man who points out how the strong man stumbles or where the doer of deeds could have done better. The credit belongs to the man who is actually in the arena, whose face is marred by dust and sweat and blood, who strives valiantly, who errs and comes up short again and again, because there is no effort without error or shortcoming, but who knows the great enthusiasms, the great devotions, who spends himself in a worthy cause; who, at the best, knows, in the end, the triumph of high achievement, and who, at the worst, if he fails, at least he fails while daring greatly, so that his place shall never be with those cold and timid souls who knew neither victory nor defeat." My coin website: https://fairfaxcoins.com |
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Bedrock of the Community
United States
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Very high level of remaining detail at AU++. The toning appears secondary after a dip/cleaning and the abrasions in the right obverse field likely resulted in an AU Details designation. The eye appeal is pretty good though so this might be a $1000 coin either way.
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Observe scratches au details but beautiful coin. Hard to find these with much detail
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Nice photographs.  Interesting that you call this a 'double dime'. While technically accurate, most numismatist would know this as a 20 cent piece. Anyways ... I'm concerned as well the serious abrasions visible in the right obverse field have conspired to cause this to be graded AU-Details. All in all a nice looking coin indeed. |
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I agree with the Details designation for the reasons given, but am unsure it's not Uncirculated. Look at the talons; I expect wear to appear there quickly.
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Interesting that you call this a 'double dime'. While technically accurate, most numismatist would know this as a 20 cent piece. Agree that this issue is more often referred to as the 20 cent piece or 20 cent silver, but the term "double dime" is also widely used. Lane Brunner and John Frost are probably the among the foremost authorities on this issue, and Frost owns every die pair variety (there are only 28) in his collection except for the very rare 1876-CC. Most of you already may know this, but Brunner and Frost published their 20 cent reference book and titled it "Double Dimes, the United States Twenty Cent Piece." They were kind enough to publish the work as an ebook for free.  It can be accessed here: http://www.doubledimes.com/John Frost's double dime variety collection with the rare 1876-CC on loan from an unnamed collector:  IN NECESSARIIS UNITAS - IN DUBIIS LIBERTAS - IN OMNIBUS CARITAS THE MAN IN THE ARENA, Theodore Roosevelt at the Sorbonne Paris on April 23, 1910: " It is not the critic who counts; not the man who points out how the strong man stumbles or where the doer of deeds could have done better. The credit belongs to the man who is actually in the arena, whose face is marred by dust and sweat and blood, who strives valiantly, who errs and comes up short again and again, because there is no effort without error or shortcoming, but who knows the great enthusiasms, the great devotions, who spends himself in a worthy cause; who, at the best, knows, in the end, the triumph of high achievement, and who, at the worst, if he fails, at least he fails while daring greatly, so that his place shall never be with those cold and timid souls who knew neither victory nor defeat." My coin website: https://fairfaxcoins.comEdited by numismatic student
09/04/2017 2:32 pm
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I don't know NS, the coin seems to have a pitted appearance on the obverse, especially on and near Miss Liberty, around the stars and on the reverse around the letters. Could be some type of environmental damage in addition to the scratches. I'd personally pass if you were looking to buy.
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MS details, Can's see any wear personally. What a shame.
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Agree with fully Mint State with graffiti. Graffiti being intentional scratches, which this is.
A darned shame, but this is still a rarity worth owning if the price isn't evil high.
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I can see this being grade AU-details or MS-details.
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Bedrock of the Community
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NGC graded this UNC Details - scratched.
IN NECESSARIIS UNITAS - IN DUBIIS LIBERTAS - IN OMNIBUS CARITAS THE MAN IN THE ARENA, Theodore Roosevelt at the Sorbonne Paris on April 23, 1910: " It is not the critic who counts; not the man who points out how the strong man stumbles or where the doer of deeds could have done better. The credit belongs to the man who is actually in the arena, whose face is marred by dust and sweat and blood, who strives valiantly, who errs and comes up short again and again, because there is no effort without error or shortcoming, but who knows the great enthusiasms, the great devotions, who spends himself in a worthy cause; who, at the best, knows, in the end, the triumph of high achievement, and who, at the worst, if he fails, at least he fails while daring greatly, so that his place shall never be with those cold and timid souls who knew neither victory nor defeat." My coin website: https://fairfaxcoins.com |
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