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Please Grade My 1856 Large Cent & Comment On Color

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I bought a partially filled Whitman album of large cents a while ago, and I think this is one of the best of them. My guess is EF 40 or 45. I'm concerned about the color, though - the others are all dark brown as you would expect, but this one is gold to reddish copper, almost like someone painted it. Is it possible that this is the coin's natural color, or did someone alter the surface?

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AU details (cleaned, some ED).
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AU details (cleaned, some ED).


What makes you say it's been cleaned? I thought all the little nicks and dings were from circulation. I don't see the groups of parallel fine lines that I do on other cleaned coins. Not sure I see evidence of ED, either - do you mean the darker spots?
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AU details, Cleaned, Environmental Damage

The telltale sign of cleaned copper is the strange coloration - most evident at 9 o'clock on the obverse.

The environmental damage is the small black spots present on the coin.
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EF, details, cleaned.

The coin has been dipped. Two indicators. First are the little black spots. Those developed with some of the dip solution was not properly washed off the coin.

The second indicator is the difference of color around the devices or elements that become "brighter" as you move toward the open fields. That two tone copper color will NEVER disappear once a coin is dipped. Even if you use a darkener, it won't be the right color.

Cleaning includes both mechanical cleaning - using something to rub against the coin, usually by hand, and chemical cleaning, which is what a dip is.

So a dip won't show the parallel lines you are referring to.
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The coin has been dipped.


Does "dipped" mean cleaned in acetone? Or did somebody use jewelry cleaner on this coin? Or salt and vinegar?
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"Dipped" refers to a cleaner of some kind (Not acetone).
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Jewelry or coin cleaner. Not acetone.
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EF, details, cleaned.


Agreed.
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XF-40 details cleaned.
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EF-45 Details.
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