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I Found A 1984 Penny That I Haven't Seen Before.

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I found a 1984 Lincoln Cent that I haven't seen before. It's not a doubled ear, it looks like all of the lettering obverse and reverse are doubled. But it's not regular doubling, it looks like the center of the letters are carved out and you can just see the edges. It's the same way with the date. Also the edges are flat. I would send pictures but they come out all blurry (cheap cell phone). Any input would be helpful.
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unfortunately, without photos. there won't be much help..
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In focus pics are best, but a little blurry can sometimes work too. Hope to see what you've got!

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Here is the tutorial about uploading and posting images

And here is the CCF Free Image Optimizer to help crop your images.
Please preview your post/pictures to be sure they are rotated correctly.
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You mean you have seen all the other 1984 cents? Quite an impressive feat.

Sorry just had to say it.
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Judging by how you described what you're seeing do they look something like this?


I-Found-A-1984-Penny-That-I-Haven't-Seen-Before.

Or this?.

I-Found-A-1984-Penny-That-I-Haven't-Seen-Before.

If so it's caused by a very worn die. Die Deterioration Doubling or DDD.
Check out my counterstamped Lincoln Cent collection:
http://goccf.com/t/303507
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You mean you have seen all the other 1984 cents?

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I found a 1984 Lincoln Cent that I haven't seen before.
It sounds more like they've never seen any 1984 pennies before
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It sounds more like they've never seen any 1984 pennies before




They looks like this :
I-Found-A-1984-Penny-That-I-Haven't-Seen-Before.


Please read :

https://www.NGCcoin.com/news/articl...ne-Doubling/

http://lincolncentresource.com/doub...bledies.html
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The lettering and date are flat and wide and they look like the center of the letters and date is hollowed or indented. Only the edges are raised. It's tarnished or dirty inside the letters and date. Also, Lincoln's image and the Lincoln Memorial on the reverse aren't showing much detail.
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The lettering and date look like this:

I-Found-A-1984-Penny-That-I-Haven't-Seen-Before.
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@RP, ok the handwritten drawing is good, but is there any reason why you can't post a pic of your actual coin? Even overall photos could help if you aren't able to give us super close-ups of the inscriptions.
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If the centers of the lettering and date have incuse features as you describe, that means there's a raised ridge inside those elements on the die. I have problems thinking of what could cause that. Therefore I'm thinking maybe some odd plating issue.

Try taking steady, clear images under good lighting from a bit farther away. If the image is nice and crisp, you can just zoom in on it after saving. I've found that I get better results with cellphone cameras by not getting in so close to capture a big image of the coin, but instead take it from farther away. What also works for me is combine being farther away with zooming in around 40-50%. You have to find the sweet spot where your phone camera does the best job of focusing, instead of trying to get in so close.
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I think he is indicating a flat shelf all the way around the letters similar to those shown by chafemasterj. As he said that is caused by die wear or Die Deterioration.
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The lettering and date look like this:


I've never seen a 4 on a US minted ooin that looked like that.
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