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I have some Buffalo nickels that I have had for about 35 years or so. One of them has what you could call an axe blade sticking out of the back of the buffalo, (at the top), the other side has an indention in the same spot. At first I thought someone had hit it with something, but the backside axe part is too smooth and looks as if it is part of the nickel. I haven't been able to find one like it online, just curious as to what happened to it, could it have happened during minting? If so, has anyone seen or know of another one?
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Pictures are always helpful
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 Posted 06/29/2008  08:07 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add mikediamond to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Post-strike damage, I'm afraid. Just a deep dent from a hard object.
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 Posted 06/29/2008  08:10 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add ziggy9 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
It appears to have been punched post mint. It was probably done shortly after being put into circulation which is why the reverse is so smooth, It has been worn down along with the rest of the coin

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Hi,

It was an apparent punch used to destroy or alter the date area in some way. It is post mint damage.

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Bill

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Agree that it's PMD.
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The back side is not smoothed out. It starts even with the Buffalos back and comes in over the top of the letters, I don't see any way that could have been done after the fact. It is higher than the letters. The "tat" that is missing is covered by the part coming off the back, is not smoothed out or anything like that. This coin hasn't seen the light of day in 35 years, doubt my mom would have altered the coin, LOL. There was never a reason for anyone to mess with this coin, so I don't see the purposeful altering of a coin that meant nothing to the person who was holding it. Evidently not going to get much help here, anyone know of a coin dealer in the Vegas area I could get to look at it?
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 Posted 06/30/2008  08:49 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add coppercoins to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Your coin is damaged. Bill said exactly what any knowledged dealer would tell you. The reason the area of damage on the reverse is smooth is because the damage was done before the coin went through heavy circulation. The circulation is what smoothed out the detail of the damage.
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Happens to the best/worst of coins. Note the marks on the reverse of this coin. You see the same exact pushed out area. It may have not been done by your family. But because it looked differently, they may have set it aside.
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I notice you are a new member, welcome to the forum.
The rest of this post is ment merely to educate.

In your last post you stated "Evidently not going to get much help here, anyone know of a coin dealer in the Vegas area I could get to look at it?"

The "lack of help you have gotten so far has come from the following"

Mike Diamond, President of CONECA, the Combined Orginizations Of Numismatic Error Collectors of America.

Foundinrolls, Bill O'rourke, author of the Found in Rolls column in CoinWorld magazine

Coppercoins, Charles Daughtry, Author of what many consider the authoritive books on Lincoln Cent Varieties and owner of the Coppercoins website

Graceoutcast, coop, and thingee, aren't slouches either.

The gentlemen above represent more experience and knowledge than you would find in a hundred mom and pop coin shops

To give you a personal example, I have a Lincoln Cent that several different coin shops looked at and informed me that "its nothing special". When I presented it here it was recognized by Chuck and Bob as something special.
Due to their efforts on my behalf the coin has been featured in several coin magazines and recognised as one of the major finds of the past 20 years (see my avatar). I tell you this not to boast on anyone's behalf but to show you how much these men's opinion are respected by the numismatic society in general.

You have an opinion from a team of respected experts that no single coin shop could hope to muster, What you do with it is up to you but if you stick around the "experts" on this forum will be the best resource for answering any questions you may have.

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It wasn't put away as something special, just a group of 15 or so I was given when I was 8 and growing up in Oklahoma. They were only kept because of the Indian Head. My mother took them when I was 16 and just gave them back, (long story). I think I will take a punch of some kind and run some tests on the other coins. I can see your example, I can understand what you are saying, while I am no metal expert, I have a hard time seeing how the "strike damage" would make the straight edges on the back side, I would think the edges of what you basically refer to as a bulge on the other side would be more rounded on the sides, similar to your example, and not have the straight edges mine has. As long as I keep a couple aside for the memory I am good. Thanks for your help.
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I have a hard time seeing how the "strike damage" would make the straight edges on the back side, I would think the edges of what you basically refer to as a bulge on the other side would be more rounded on the sides

Coop's example has circular damage on the obverse resulting in a circular bulge on the reverse. You have a straight edged gouge on the obverse that created a straight edged bulge on the reverse. You are simply displacing metal from one side of the coin to the other in the outline of whatever struck the obverse. A small screwdriver or chisel could easily make a mark like that. You are not going to be able to closely recreate that coin because it spent a significant amount of time in circulation after the damage occurred, thus wearing down the bulge.
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Many punches are squared in shape. So a hit on one side will cause a depression on one side and a square shaped mark on the other side of the coin.
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