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2000 Lincoln Memorial Cent Stuck Through Cloth?

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This came out of my mother in law cents in 10 wooded decanters

2000-Lincoln-Memorial-Cent-Stuck-Through-Cloth? 2000-Lincoln-Memorial-Cent-Stuck-Through-Cloth? 2000-Lincoln-Memorial-Cent-Stuck-Through-Cloth?

Only the obverse is affected
what do you think?
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Looks like what happens to your front doorstep when you leave a mat in place too long without washing the concrete.

Of course, I am certainly not a variety or error expert either....
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True
but this looks like a workers rag got in the way
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A post mint rag got in the way. I don't think this came from the mint like this.
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Or a reaction from paper or finish from the wood. What ever it is, it not adding any value to me.
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What's the reverse look like? Can you provide a pic.?
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If this had been struck through a rag there wouldn't be much if any detail on the coin other than the weave of the rag. This is just an exposure stain...environmental damage.
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CC your wrong
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This was a cloth imprinted on the surface. Not a struck thru. Here is a struck thru cloth dime for comparison.

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I think the dime shows cc was right. The struck thru cloth dime shows no sharp detail. The date is even very blurry and unreadable. The cent has sharp details. I think this shows that the cent is just stained and not struck thru.
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cc is right on the money. The dime is graded 62 by PCGS and is slabbed as a "no date". I have seen other struck thru cloth's and I have never seen one with a readable date.
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CC add you all can think what you want I know a struck thur when I see one
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Since there appears to be no evidence of indents on the coin's surface, the possibility of this being a struck through is extremely minimal. Even a cloth will impart its texture, in the form of an incused pattern, to the coin's surface when it comes between the die and a planchet.

While the coin shown has a cloth pattern it does not have an incused pattern. Thus, it is a stain on the coin and not a "struck through a foreign object".

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My camera won't do 3D but its indent I will try to get a picture of it
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If your confident of your find, spend $40 + ins. & registered mail, and send to PCGS or any TPG. Then you will know for sure.
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I can handle being wrong - when I am wrong...

But in this case I know I'm right. I've seen it hundreds if not thousands of times. A struck through cloth coin looks very strange, like the dime....and they are very scarce. Thanks to this dime, I have now seen around a dozen struck through cloth coins, and all of them have the same characteristics - very mottled design, lettering barely readable if at all, and a perfectly normal 'other side'. Almost always the struck through is on the obverse. BTW, I have yet to see a zinc Lincoln struck through cloth.
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