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Another One For The Token Guys 1820 Penny

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What grade do you think it is. Is this a known variety? What would be the value?

Thanks to all that will give their opinion!
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Looks like perhaps VG sharpness but likely a details coin because of the scratches. I'm guessing the harp reflects an Irish origin, and that the bust is of George IV of England.
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Charlton variety LC-60D1 or 2 (copper vs. brass). VF detail on this purposely crudely made Bust & Harp token, some scratches, approx $100 if copper or $30 if brass.

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You go, I was just going on instinct.
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Were these cast?

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struck using very crude dies, intentionally made to look circulated.

below is as strong AU example. while perhaps not from the same set of dies, it shows how tricky these guys can be

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10 string Harp and bust, yes crudely made as Wade posted.
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Voper, you have been referring to many tokens you have posted as pennies but they are halfpennies - the bust and harp, bouquet sou, PEI.

I think the token shown in this post has been dipped or otherwise cleaned. There appears to be corrosion pitting around the obverse edge that has been scrubbed.

Wade's harp and bust token is LC-60F1 if brass, F2 if copper.

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This is Charlton's LC 60 D2 further identified as Courteau variety 7 having a rarity factor of 1 on a scale of 1-10, with 1 being common as snow in the Canadian wintertime. This ensample exhibits the characteristic die-Crack from the rim passing through the eye and curls and exiting to the rim. Ingram and Marelic considered this as two independent die-cracks uniting together within the curls. I believe the right section of the crack is merely a continuation of the die-crack from an striking from a later state of the die.
Grade VF.
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colonialtokens ... long time no see. Where have you been for so long?
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Had to take some time off in order to finish a forty year project.

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For those of you with token questions, here is the guru. He, along with 1960Giants can answer nearly anything that comes up.
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Query for the gurus. How does one access 'archived' posts.

One purpose of this site is obtain knowledge and to pass on knowledge.

I believe many of my threads have proven educational and informative and unless they can be accessed will become lost forever in the depths of the abyss.

Perhaps another category on the forum home page under Canadian can be created for educational and informative postings.

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