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I have a Byzantine gold coin in an ANACS slab with yellow label. ANACS does not list the weight of the coin on the label. I'm wondering if anyone knows what an empty slab weighs so I can try and determine the approximate weight of the coin. Thanks.  Paul Bulgerin
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Assuming it's genuine and correctly graded, why do you want to know the weight? Just curious.
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I have it for sale on ebay and someone sent a message asking about the weight. I'm trying to see if I can give the person an approximate answer other than, "I don't know". Paul Bulgerin
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Quote:I have it for sale on ebay and someone sent a message asking about the weight. I'm trying to see if I can give the person an approximate answer other than, "I don't know". "I don't know" is probably going to be the safest answer for you or just give the total weight of the coin and slab. Any specific answer opens you up potentially to a not as described claim. Depending on how many digits you take the slab weight out there are variations both from tolerance and just larger coins have a smaller inner ring than small coins have. The difference is pretty negligible but enough digits out and it'll show |
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Get hold of another (cheap) coin in an ANACS slab of the same vintage, remove cheap coin from slab, weight slab.
Edited by joecoin
06/02/2019 9:31 pm
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Quite a fair question that the OP has asked.
If you asked ANACS, the answer may not be simple.
ANACS are TPGraders, not slab manufacturers. The weight would depend who made their slabs under what contract, and when.
It may still be worth asking ANACS what is the typical weight of a slab in each batch from the manufacturer. Perhaps ANACS may have kept a record in this regard.
WHY?
Because as the OP has suggested by innuendo, that the weight of a coin inside a slab can still be determined, without having to destroy the slab.
I suggest that you write to ANACS. If lucky, they may help you.
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I would do as basebal21 suggested and give the total weight of coin & slab as the only available option. Anything else would be guessing and could cause trouble.
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If you asked ANACS, the answer may not be simple.
ANACS are TPGraders, not slab manufacturers. The weight would depend who made their slabs under what contract, and when.
It may still be worth asking ANACS what is the typical weight of a slab in each batch from the manufacturer. Perhaps ANACS may have kept a record in this regard.
WHY? Every legit TPG is in the business of having their slabs manufactured. They know what they are supposed to be and what their tolerances are and who made them etc. They also won't share that information publicly and there is no perhaps that they may have kept records, PCGS even has visible quality control codes on their batches as one example. This idea that they are clueless to what they should be or only may have kept records is just flat out wrong, people need to stop acting like the legitimate ones are sloppy amateur hour. Anything ordering random slabs offline to slab with is not a legitimate TPG |
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Agree that it's best to just give the total weight. The weight of the inner insert will vary depending on the size of the coin, so there's no way to determine the coin weight unless you have an empty slab from the exact same diameter coin.
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06/02/2019 11:33 pm
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That's a real problem for the OP.
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What's the point of authenticating/grading something like this if they aren't going to put the weight on the slab? They vary from 3.6g to 4.5g or so from what I can tell looking at others, pretty inconsistent, and seems like those are things a collector/buyer/seller would want to know, purity and weight.
Then again, I can't imagine they sell at melt right? should be above that anyways I'd think, and maybe the gold value shouldn't be much of a factor to a serious collector.
someone asking the weight is kind of a red flag they are going to make an offer for melt value for it once you tell them it. lol
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Thanks for all the responses to my inquiry. I responded to the ebay questioner that I did not know the weight. Paul Bulgerin
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How I would figure this out: You don't need to remove the coin or find an empty holder. Weigh your complete slab with the gold coin in it. You need to determine the diameter of that coin first since the inner translucent insert has different weights depending on how much of it was punched or cut out to hold the coin in place. That kind of ANACS slab with a Jefferson nickel in it would be easy to determine the weight of the slab without a nickel in it. Lets say the total weight of that type slab with the nickel in it weighed a HYPOTHETICAL 55 grams for example. Since a nickel weighs 5 grams, simply subtract 5 from 55 and an empty slab with a nickel size hole would weigh 50 grams. You'll have to find out what the diameter of the gold coin in your slab is and find a similar more easily found coin that is the same diameter in that kind of ANACS slab. Weigh that complete slab and look up the weight of that coin in your RedBook or weigh one of that diameter yourself and subtract. Your gold coin looks like it might be more like the size of a US dime or one cent but I can't tell. |
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I would stick with Basebal21's response , he's always seemed level headed in all his post that I have read...good luck on the sale..
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Quote:I responded to the ebay questioner that I did not know the weight. That's the safest path.  Let any potential buyer decide what it is worth to them. It is already identified and authenticated. In Memory of Crazyb0 12-26-1951 to 7-27-2020
In Memory of Tootallious 3-31-1964 to 4-15-2020
In Memory of T-BOP 10-12-1949 to 1-19-2024
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I can get you the weight tomorrow, I have 3 cracked slabs sitting in front of me at the moment, the are US silver dollars so the insert weight will likely be less due to the size of the hole for a Morgan dollar. "Buy the Book Before You Buy the Coin" - Aaron R. Feldman - "And read it" - Me 2013! ANA Life Member #3288 in good standing since 1981, ANS, Early American Coppers Member (EAC), Colonial Coin Collectors Club member (C4), Conder Token Collector Club member (CTCC), Civil War Token Society (CWTS) member, Liberty Seated Collectors Club (LSCC) & Numismatic Bibliomania Society member (NBS), USMex, Member in good standing, 2¢ variety collector. See my want page: http://goccf.com/t/140440 |
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