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Not my field, but there's clearly a lot going on there!
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Thanks Coinfrog - hoping someone will chime in soon on if this is really a circulated proof.  |
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Can you post a pic of the page in the book where it's listed? Can't find a pic of it online and don't own the book myself.
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I'd like to know the answer too, but I don't have every book on the subject. Hopefully there is an expert who will figure this out.
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I am checking fo into whether it is OK me to post the picture of the book ~
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CoinsKelly - I think you already have this book? The Ultimate Guide to Three Cent Nickels 1865-1889 (2003) by Allan Gifford. But if not https://nnp.wustl.edu/library/book/555545 the photos leave a lot to be desired but you can screen grab them and use some contrast enhancement as needed. I also have the Flynn book but not at the house ATM, pretty sure it's one in storage. "Buy the Book Before You Buy the Coin" - Aaron R. Feldman - "And read it" - Me 2013! ANA Life Member #3288 in good standing since 1981, ANS, Early American Coppers Member (EAC), Colonial Coin Collectors Club member (C4), Conder Token Collector Club member (CTCC), Civil War Token Society (CWTS) member, Liberty Seated Collectors Club (LSCC) & Numismatic Bibliomania Society member (NBS), USMex, Member in good standing, 2¢ variety collector. See my want page: http://goccf.com/t/140440 |
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My opinion. There were some of the RPD-006 business strikes. Though it is possible yours is a proof. It is missing the single clash marks visable on the bust. It has the correct longacre doubling on AM, and the closed D. That alone matches the RPD. As for determining if it's a proof that becomes harder. Yours has a mushy strike on both sides, and a fat rim not like that of a proof C3N. My opinion is that it's a EDS strike Business strike struck with the proof die paid
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I do not have that book, just downloaded from the archive so the pics are not that good. I was referencing Kevin Flynn's book and it only indicates that they were proofs and I just did not think that seemed correct. GrapeCollects, is there a reference for the business strikes? I would love to see it. Or...if you think it might be a different RPD, let me know. I am compulsive/obsessive enough to desire confirmation for this one |
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I'll check Gifford's book when I get home today. I'm not familiar with this variety. However, if I were making a gut-check about type type of strike, the look of the coin based on the images appears to be a business strike (rounded rims, soft dentils, soft devices, etc.).
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I've reviewed Gifford's book for 1881. Again, based on what I'm seeing of that coin, I see no hint that it was ever struck as a Proof. Gifford points out that at least one Proof set of dies was used to make business strikes (1881P03 and 1881B13...where 1881B13a is with die clashing). The pictures in the book look like a match from I can tell with your pictures for 1881B13. However, I'm going to have to hedge here and say that there are other Business strike die pairs that might match up with what you have. There are multiple dies that have similar repunched dies like yours exhibits. For 1881B13, Gifford believes less than 900 were minted (less than 600 for 13a), but other die pairings have higher possible mintages. Your best bet would be to get your hands on Gifford's book (maybe borrow from the ANA) and look at all the pictures he has for all the variations on the repunched dates for this year. Please let us know what you discover. |
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Good eye, diorthotis! When I was looking at it before I bought it I thought it was RPD-003 as well since the pictures were not as clear. The 8's are close but not quite right for RPD-003 and correct for RPD-006 (but that did not make sense since I did not think it was a proof). Thanks Prethen for confirming it is not a proof. I had not considered the possibility of proof dies used for business strikes. I will reach out to ANA to see if I can borrow the book and will keep this thread updated. Stay tuned...  |
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