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1843 O Half Dollar Question

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I really don't know how critical it would be so I would like to hear from the experienced. Would you rather see a coin in this condition left as is or put in aluminum foil, baking soda hot water and cleaned?

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 Posted 03/26/2020  11:37 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Coinfrog to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Please leave it alone!



to the CCF!
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I am no expert, but I would never clean my coins. Cleaning coins usually leads to a substantial decrease in value.
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I like the circulation cameo appearance of this coin and would leave it be.
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leave it alone, right now it has a nice "aged" look and if you clean it, it would only be a shiny circular disk of stamped silver
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 Posted 03/26/2020  12:20 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Onedollarbillnut to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Definitely leave it alone. Very nice circulated example.
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OK. I got it.

You are much appreciated.
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put in aluminum foil, baking soda hot water and cleaned


Did you just make up this method? hopefully nobody suggests it
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Yeah, please don't clean it, even if it wasn't such an appealing circulated example, though it definitely is, cleaning it would harshly diminish it's value.

In general I just like the stories that these worn, aged pieces tell, but the moment one cleans them, a little bit of history is lost in a sense.
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Nice circulation cameo! Leave it as is..
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Please leave it as is. But if you want a cleaned on, you likely can find one on ebay.

When a coin like this is cleaned it looks lifeless and dull b/c of the wear on the details from years of circulation. Its sort of like painting a wilted rose bright red to make it look more healthy - it might be more red, but the obvious wrinkles and wilting don't match with the bright color.
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A beautiful circulation cameo!

Do not do a thing to this coin!
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Where did you get that particular method from?

And Lord no. There is absolutely no reason to clean this coin at all.
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Do not clean this coin!

It has a really beautiful circulation cameo effect, which makes it appear to have a much higher grade than it actually has. That will be lost if the patina is removed, and there is a great risk that the coin will look horrible.

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I have heard of this cleaning method before, and it is occasionally used by museums for ancient silver coins recovered from direct soil contact ground burial.
Definitely not applicable in this case.
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The method he is speaking of is what some metal detectorists use to loosen up build-up and make some silvers not look so black. I'm a detectorist and have used this method with some low value dug silvers. It actually leaves some of the darkness behind on the tin foil, and as long as you don't wipe it, and just rinse it off, it doesn't look cleaned. I personally wouldn't do that on dug coins of higher numismatic value (nor would I do it to this coin) and I also would not use baking sod, just salt.

Most of the time I just do an acetone soak on my dug silvers, but some of them dig up so black and nasty that doing the boil method mentioned couldn't hurt it any more. Again, I'm not recommending this method for this coin or any others that haven't been dug out of a corn field or the woods. If you look online, you can see some examples of this method being used, mostly on metal detecting forums. Some people do a crappy job and rub them after, but others with the coins appearance in mind actually get some of them looking halfway decent (compared to what they looked like when dug up).

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If you clean it by your method, the coin will lose value. As noted the coin is a nice circulated cameo.
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