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Bedrock of the Community
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Jewelman13, make sure you put it in a 2x2 for protection. The obverse is developing a spot, so you want to protect it asap.
Errers and Varietys.
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Pillar of the Community
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Has to be crazy rare to not be listed. Very very nice. I would guess $100+ even in the condition that it is in!!
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Pillar of the Community
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I ak sorry folks, I mean no offense to our Forum's experts ,but I am not so convinced that this is a HUGE Cud !!I am looking at the clear impression of the coin's edge on the jewler's wood board ,clearly hammerrd. Plus the out of round and flattened Rims on Two opposite sides with further indents in the filled. I will be convinced once it has been closely examined and attributed by an expert.   |
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Bedrock of the Community
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Maybe an edge view of the coin would be more helpful. The raised area on the reverse should be higher than the rim on that area.
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@chase, those marks on the wood plus the misshapen (i.e. non-circular rims) are what raised my caution flag as well. With that said, Mike Diamond has forgotten more about mint errors than I can ever hope to learn so I'm willing to defer to him.
"If you climb a good tree, you get a push."
-----Ghanaian proverb
"The danger we all now face is distinguishing between what is authentic and what is performed."
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Pillar of the Community
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Spence,
I have a great deal of respect for Mike D. and our own Forum's experts as well, but as time and time again they have proven me wrong and have tought me a great deal about what I know today.
But at the same token we have also seen that at times the best of us including the experts in the field have made erroneous calls and it is for the most part because they are judging only by looking at the pictures without examining the coin in hand. I am not at all convinced that this is a genuine mint error, there are too many red flags!!
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03/28/2020 1:10 pm
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Bedrock of the Community
United States
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It's a legitimate error. It's a giant Cud as mentioned earlier. Not sure why some think it's damage, because it's obviously not. Jewelman13, make sure you get this in a 2x2 asap. Errers and Varietys.
Edited by Errers and Varietys
03/28/2020 1:35 pm
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I'm sorry for those folks that think this was done with a hammer, but this definitely was not. I've seen plenty of coins that were hammered and they definitely don't look like the one I have here. How would hammering one side make a blow out on the other side with leaving the rim still raised on both side? And having a major raised double lipped Cud? |
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Bedrock of the Community
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Damage can alter a coin like this coin. The impact on one side of the coin, pushes out the opposite side. Is there a crease on the edge of the coin?  That show after strike damage if the crease shows on the edge like that. |
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Not sure why some think it's damage, because it's obviously not. @E&V, you've made your point crystal clear and that is fine. Rather than quash all other ideas, let's let everyone say what they think and contribute to this robust conversation. Thx.  The new pics by @jewlman are more convincing to me. I don't see many Cuds this large and so the coin being slightly out of round is a surprise. "If you climb a good tree, you get a push."
-----Ghanaian proverb
"The danger we all now face is distinguishing between what is authentic and what is performed."
-----King Adz
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Bedrock of the Community
United States
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Thanks Spence. I'll tone it down.
Errers and Varietys.
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Pillar of the Community
United States
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I have seen this particular Cud before, so whatever peculiarities it possesses are greatly outweighed by the numerous signs of authenticity (e.g., a featureless lump on one face and a featureless pucker on the opposite face). Error coin writer and researcher.
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Pillar of the Community
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@mikediamond, What causes the second bulge partially covering the columns on the Memorial? Is this a spalling of the remaining die surface, as opposed to the absence of the portion of the die south of the bulge? Or is it metal flow?
@Jewelman13, Fantastic find! Congrats!
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Pillar of the Community
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Die steel can break off and crumble in unpredictable ways. As you say, this portion of the die face "spalled off". In fact, the entire Cud might have spalled off. A Cud can represent loss of a vertically extensive chunk of the die face and die neck or can represent a relatively thin flake that spalled off the die face. Error coin writer and researcher.
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