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1857 Seated Half Dime You Vs PCGS

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I saw this one pop up on ebay this morning and took a real fancy to it. What did PCGS grade it?


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 Posted 12/22/2020  2:24 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add dbrablec to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
i am not a competent grader...

but beautiful coin...
high grade...
nice toning...
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I'll say MS-63.
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Looks like a wing clash coming out of her right arm area. and the denticles and the rim look funny to me. Perhaps struck on a quarter?
as for grade I'll say MS-62-63
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Looks like possible circulation wear in fields on reverse.

AU58

But, if that's just random marks/toning, then I'd say MS63. Beautiful coin; obverse looks frosty!
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Tough call with this toning...I'll go with 63
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Beautiful Coin. I love how that multi color toning is mostly waist up, with the prominent side of the toning is the same as which She is facing. Nice frosty tastefully toned Coin.
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I'm on the fence between MS63 and 64. I'd call it 63 but I think PCGS called it 64
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Tough assignment on this one. I know how I would see it raw, on a bourse floor, but that isn't the question. The question is how PCGS might see this coin.

The 1857 has a decent high grade survivorship, and is approachable to MS-64. Lightly circulated examples are fairly common. The obverse potentially shows light wear on the cap, head, left leg, and toes. The reverse potentially shows light wear on the bow, ribbon, and second right cluster of leaves. There are several contact marks in the obverse fields, especially west of the central devices. The rim dings on the reverse at 2:00, 3:00, and 7:00 suggest some circulation. The toning is a bit blotchy, but probably not enough for a -0.5 eye appeal adjustment. Net AU-58.

If that's how PCGS came in, the coin is a steal. It would trade quickly at MS-63 on a bourse floor.
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Sure looks like some friction and luster loss over Liberty's legs. Based on these images I'd have to go with AU-58.
Nice coin nevertheless, with attractive original toning.
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I'd say AU-58 with attractive toning.
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I'd go with MS63
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good assessment by FC. I see some scratches on the left obverse field under the toning. this one is in the AU58 or MS63 box. I'm leaning the later
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Times up!
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This one graded MS-64! Now I'll freely admit that's optimistic, but I feel that A) it's probably nicer in hand, B) I bought it at MS-63 money, C) that the marks are likely less severe in hand than in photos.
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