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1878-S T$1 Trade Dollar

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I like the strike on this one. Especially the head strike. Thoughts? Thanks!

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 Posted 12/23/2020  1:19 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Coinfrog to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I'll say AU-55, perhaps 58. Very attractive.
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Agreed - Nice eye appeal. Pics make it look white like a "properly" dipped coin. May not be in hand. I like it!
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Not sure I see any wear on it, looks like a 62 to me. nice one!
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Lots of field scratches and some rubs from possible wear - AU58
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Luster is definitely diminished in the fields. Many small marks and faint hairlines but not enough to "detail" the coin. AU-58.
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I'm with @Coinfrog here, AU-55, maybe AU-58. There is one heavy contact mark on the obverse, from Liberty's right elbow south through her lap. It has a great strike and nice eye appeal.
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Trade dollars often suffer from weak strikes due to reduced die pressure accomplished by placing the dies far apart. This appears at least ms63 to me.
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if this comes back at AU58 its a really nice AU58
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This one came in. I was hoping this one was better. Might have to send it back although there are many things I like about this coin. Thoughts? Thanks!

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Ouch. Send that packing.
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AU Details Harshly Cleaned. The seller did a nice job of hiding the cleaning with the photos.
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I am not sure about harshly cleaned. The scratches are limited to the fields and not the devices. Both sides exhibit cartwheel luster. Both sides exhibit prooflike fields. The scratches behind liberty are deep and my main concern.
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Definitely looks MS IMO, but I can't tell if those hairlines are from cleaning or not from the pics. The left reverse field in particular looks quite suspicious based off the haloing of the devices.

At the very least the scratches you mentioned behind liberty may details it.

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Tough to judge, but based on the way a majority of the hairlines maintain a space from the devices (the halo that Adam mentioned), would suggest post strike, not die scratches. These also reflect light differently than areas absent of these hairlines.

May also just be the lighting, but obverse K12-K1 (head to shoulders and fields immediately surrounding) look altered, possibly polished? Could just be lighting.

Im calling AU58 Details.
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