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1942 1c Lincoln Cent - Struck On An Ecuador 10 Centavos Planchet (3.1 G)

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Hi Guys,

Found this, short of sending it to a grading company what do you guys think?


1942-1c-Lincoln-Cent---Struck-On-An-Ecuador-10-Centavos-Planchet-3.1-G
1942-1c-Lincoln-Cent---Struck-On-An-Ecuador-10-Centavos-Planchet-3.1-G
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Looks like a US penny planchet with an improper alloy mixture (sometimes called a "woodie" or "wood-grain cent.") Doesn't add a ton of value, but some collectors of these might pay a small premium for it. Certainly not worth grading.

Also, the weight is consistent with a normal penny, so not sure what that was meant to prove. An Ecuador 10 centavos planchet should be 2.8 grams. This is well within mint tolerance for a penny (3.11 grams with a tolerance of +/- .13 grams).
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Well within range for a penny, not within range of a centavo.
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Agree. Within US Mint Tolerance for a Wheat cent.
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I see nothing to indicate anything other than a normal cent.
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Looks pretty normal to me.



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https://coins.ha.com/itm/errors/194.../1258-5391.s

Reason for my question was the link prior.

I noticed this penny in question has some striations compared to the other 1942 I have. And looks really similar to the coin in the link.

How else can one tell if its on a planchet from Ecuador?
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How else can one tell if its on a planchet from Ecuador?

If you have the time and money - Find someone/someplace with an XRF analyzer. The slab says Ecuador brass planchet is 85% copper, 15% zinc.
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I believe the Philadelphia mint did strike Ecuadorian 5, 10, and 20 centavo coins in 1942. Sounds like at least one Ecuadorian 10 centavo planchet got mixed in with the American planchets, per the NGC-graded coin you referenced. Seems like the Ecuadorian planchets were 80% copper and 20% zinc (someone can check me on that), which would be the only reasonable way you could tell the two planchets apart. The Lincoln Cent planchets should be 95% copper and 5% tin and zinc.
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Halfamind and Sale4coin, about the weight of this coin I do not see a big deal.

Looking at the color, I will say strike on US alloy planchet; reason: Till 15% Zn, tin or even Ni it is bronze. Till this % the alloy can have in some conditions same colors like the 95 and more % of copper. The Ecuadorian planchet use Brass, which never will have same color or tarnish or oxidations colors like red bronze or copper.

Hope this help.
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Could be a fun experiment to check the composition of this one on XRF. You might find one at your LCS. I do agree that you are likely to find this one within mint specs for wheat cents though. If you follow through with further analysis, please post the findings to this thread. Thx.
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@sale4coin I explained the striations in my comment. It's an alloy mixing error called a wood grain cent. Very common in the 40s. Adds little if any premium.
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Sam if I will start to collect this mint alloy, for this I will pay you if I am in good mood 1.01$ and 1/2 to 1/2 shipping.
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Nice woody though. I'd throw it in a 2x2.
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How else can one tell if its on a planchet from Ecuador

As explained earlier in this thread, your weight is way off for an Ecuador planchet. Once you're over normal, it's game over. Value of your Wheat cent: 3 cents.

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