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Recently received this Morgan, but the lack of cartwheel luster is strange. Thoughts on grade and if it's worth sending to PCGS?   |
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United States
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AU details, likely overdipped.
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Pillar of the Community
United States
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At first I thought EF40 but after some consideration I think it's nice enough to hit EF45 - I don't believe it makes AU though. I'm apparently in the minority. The hits from the other coins in the surfaces keep it out of AU territory.
"Buy the Book Before You Buy the Coin" - Aaron R. Feldman - "And read it" - Me 2013! ANA Life Member #3288 in good standing since 1981, ANS, Early American Coppers Member (EAC), Colonial Coin Collectors Club member (C4), Conder Token Collector Club member (CTCC), Civil War Token Society (CWTS) member, Liberty Seated Collectors Club (LSCC) & Numismatic Bibliomania Society member (NBS), USMex, Member in good standing, 2˘ variety collector. See my want page: http://goccf.com/t/140440 |
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United States
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Low AU Details, cleaned, surfaces are not original. Not worth the cost of submitting to a TPG. If this were a problem free mid AU, sure, but not this one.  |
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Bedrock of the Community
United States
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Yes, appears cleaned. Low AU for me.
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New Member
 United States
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Thanks everyone for the advice. I was fearing dipped, but wanted to make sure. Even though it doesn't have luster, the coin is still very reflective and the view changes a lot based on lighting. Here are some more pics under different lighting.   |
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Australia
599 Posts |
Yes overdipped.
Send it to NGC.
Better chance of grading there.
Watch your top knot
Edited by echidna
04/30/2021 07:54 am
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Bedrock of the Community
United States
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I'd say AU-50/53 sharpness, unsure if cleaned or dipped.
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United States
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The coin is not showing hairlines from a cleaning, but there is no luster showing in the protected areas that is typical of a AU example. The coin has most likely been messed with by a dip or some type of cleaning. There is a chance the coin could net grades market acceptable at XF45, but likely grades AU Details cleaned.
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United States
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With the newer photos I can now see an AU50/53 on this one. More feathers left on the Eagles breast than I first thought. Details or not? That's a tough call, the TPGs seem to be a toss up on so many of these.
"Buy the Book Before You Buy the Coin" - Aaron R. Feldman - "And read it" - Me 2013! ANA Life Member #3288 in good standing since 1981, ANS, Early American Coppers Member (EAC), Colonial Coin Collectors Club member (C4), Conder Token Collector Club member (CTCC), Civil War Token Society (CWTS) member, Liberty Seated Collectors Club (LSCC) & Numismatic Bibliomania Society member (NBS), USMex, Member in good standing, 2˘ variety collector. See my want page: http://goccf.com/t/140440 |
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Reflection-wise, the fields seems to flow into the devices. It is basically one grey mass. Therefore: AU Details, CLEANED.
Edited by NumisEd
04/30/2021 11:15 am
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if it's worth sending to PCGS? You have the CCF opinions above on grade. I would put the ballpark value at $100 as a raw example. Below are ballpark values in a NGC or PCGS holder: AU53 $300 AU50 $200 AU Details $150 XF 45 $90 XF Details $65 If you feel the coin grades below AU50, do not send in for grading. |
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United States
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AU details - cleaned then lightly polished
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Posted 04/30/2021 01:22 am
