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2015-P Roosevelt Dime - Interesting Die Deterioration.or Not ?

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 Posted 05/03/2021  10:10 am Show Profile   Bookmark this topic Add flyank to your friends list Get a Link to this Message Number of Subscribers
I call this "interesting" because both the obverse AND reverse are exhibiting the same type of issue. The major center relief areas all appear to be of typical strike...but the areas approaching the rim certainly have issue. Thoughts?
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 Posted 05/03/2021  10:16 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add coop to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Well it would be common. It was mentioned once that 54% of the coins come from VLDS die state dies.
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So it is common. It was not like this was the last coin struck by this die, but one of many coins struck by a worn out die.
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Why?
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Thank You Coop...I have never seen the die state percentages as you posted. Quite interesting. However, the funny thing is....in roll searching I find VERY FEW of the supposed largest percentage (54%) which should look like my example...perplexing in the real world.
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I don't know for sure, but perhaps most dies are retired before their maximum possible lifespan is up? That estimate was for dies that are used as long as possible.
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First I've heard of those numbers as well!
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Now I am wondering if this is a die trial strike, or die adjustment strike, where the striking pressure was not properly set. That seems to be a logical conclusion since both sides are equally affected. The convex shape of the die at striking would lead to the centers striking up better as exhibited and the outer areas near the rim less so. Any new thoughts on this line of thinking? The following image is credited to the NGC educational error area of their website. They also note that these type of strikes rarely escape the mint.

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Reverse image would help.
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What you're seeing is textbook die wear, not strike weakness. Die Deterioration is characterized by distorted devices and flow lines in the fields, as seen on your coin. Weak strikes are just unstuck at the high points (around the edge, middle of the portrait).
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