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Was at a local coin show today on the hunt for some pre or post federal copper coinage. I ended up picking this guy up for $40. Given that I don't see Eborac's for a fair price often I decided to get it. Obviously it's not the prettiest and it's got a lot of corrosion but it's also got a fair amount of detail for looking like it was dug up. I've been working towards finding a fugio Cent for a good deal, losing many bids and offers on a few. Eventually I'll find one but on my journey there I'll continue to pick up other nice colonial and pre/post federal coppers and share them with you all as I do. I put this coin at F/VF details. Thoughts on the pickup? -CH27   Collector of U.S. Coins, Varieties, and Colonial Coinage
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09/05/2021 11:32 pm
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To corroded for my liking. F details
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Understandable. Thanks for your input.
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Yes the surface is very porous, but I think all old US copper is great fun. Congrats on the pick-up!
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Thank you Spence! The ebay prices on Nova Eboracs are pretty high, even for damaged and heavily corroded ones. I felt this was a fair deal and probably the cheapest I'll find one. I love the designs of the US coppers, particularly fugio, New Jersey state and Massachusetts state. Lots of history behind each coin too. -CH27 Collector of U.S. Coins, Varieties, and Colonial Coinage
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09/06/2021 12:19 pm
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CoinHunter27 you and I are on the same journey, though I find these lower end coins just too hard to ID and type properly by variety. So I have been spending my money on the literature that's been coming out lately. Just as expensive and I learn a lot too. I have to be satisfied with looking at the coins in photos, and over the past year or two there have been some simply amazing auctions to study, the Donald Partrick multiple sales from Heritage have been very eye opening. I also recommend getting on NNP and downloading all of the PDF "American Numismatic Rarities" and most of the Stack's "Americana" auction catalogs. The Newman set is also great as it has many of Eric Newman's books reprinted inside. His Fugio, Continental Dollar and Good Samaritan Farthing books off the top of my head are in them. I'd agree with a F details heavily corroded on this example. It's close to my first Hibernia 1/2 pence I just got. I too feel you on the Fugios - I have had the exact same experience searching as well, then I usually find one just after I go and buy another Two Cent variety I didn't already have, DOH! Priorities though. Trouble is most of the pre-federal and colonial coins I would want and consider to be "good enough" seem to be in the $800 to $1700 range, and my current budget is usually $40 to $250 can you see the dilema? "Buy the Book Before You Buy the Coin" - Aaron R. Feldman - "And read it" - Me 2013! ANA Life Member #3288 in good standing since 1981, ANS, Early American Coppers Member (EAC), Colonial Coin Collectors Club member (C4), Conder Token Collector Club member (CTCC), Civil War Token Society (CWTS) member, Liberty Seated Collectors Club (LSCC) & Numismatic Bibliomania Society member (NBS), USMex, Member in good standing, 2¢ variety collector. See my want page: http://goccf.com/t/140440 |
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Thanks a lot westcoin! I have spent a lot of time with online reading and studying different colonial and state copper coinage. There are so many varieties of different coins and factors that affect grade, details and planchet surface too. I have run into the same problem with the price ranges. My budget is lower than yours so you can imagine how difficult it is to find good looking coppers at low prices. At the show yesterday I saw 4 fugios total, priced at $675, $800, $1000 and $1100. ebay has some fair prices for some, the lowest I've seen being $100 but even then a lot of them get more expensive. People pay a lot of money for corroded, damaged and cleaned specimens of most colonial/state coppers. A lot of my money has gone into modern US varieties as my posts most likely give away. I am proud of my variety collection but decided to branch out into colonials....the prices are most certainly tougher to work with. In time though I hope I will be able to afford some better pieces I can share the community here! Thanks again for the valued input! -CH27 Collector of U.S. Coins, Varieties, and Colonial Coinage
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09/06/2021 3:26 pm
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There are so many great Colonial Coinage books for little cost to free out as well.
David Bowers Whitman Encyclopedia (2nd Edition is out now) is only around $40.00 and one of the best all around references out.
For free stuff - Newman Numismatic Portal:
Periodicals:
C4 (Colonial Coin Collectors Club) Colonial Newsletter
Colonial Newsletter-Online
Colonial Newsletter
Generation Newsletter
The Condor Token Collector's Club Journal
The Virginia Numismatist - Journal, Newsletters
Books there are quite a few you just need to dig around Just today I found the "Numismatics of Massachusetts" by Malcom R. Storer (1981 Quarterman Reprint) had been posted and I missed it before. Be sure to check the archival boxes of Eric Newman for many great files there too. Also the ANS Coinage of the America Conference Proceeding Books are most all online at NNP or the ANS folder on Internet Archive).
Just my Colonial Coinage Folder on my Library drive is at 5.3GB of data now, not including any auction catalogs, or videos. Add in those and it's probably at 60GB+ now. Feel free to ask if there is anything specifically you are looking for (in a general sense) I have tons of stuff on esoteric items. I'll help with what I can.
"Buy the Book Before You Buy the Coin" - Aaron R. Feldman - "And read it" - Me 2013! ANA Life Member #3288 in good standing since 1981, ANS, Early American Coppers Member (EAC), Colonial Coin Collectors Club member (C4), Conder Token Collector Club member (CTCC), Civil War Token Society (CWTS) member, Liberty Seated Collectors Club (LSCC) & Numismatic Bibliomania Society member (NBS), USMex, Member in good standing, 2¢ variety collector. See my want page: http://goccf.com/t/140440 |
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Thank you Westcoin! I actually requested some colonial books and readings in the forum involving reading here on CCF, and you gave me a good comprehensive list of online ones to read as well as other physical books to consider. Thanks again for that!
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Like I said I have most of them in PDF already if you cant find what you need or download it drop me an message and I will see if I can send you what you are looking for. Offers there for anyone needing or wanting to learn.
"Buy the Book Before You Buy the Coin" - Aaron R. Feldman - "And read it" - Me 2013! ANA Life Member #3288 in good standing since 1981, ANS, Early American Coppers Member (EAC), Colonial Coin Collectors Club member (C4), Conder Token Collector Club member (CTCC), Civil War Token Society (CWTS) member, Liberty Seated Collectors Club (LSCC) & Numismatic Bibliomania Society member (NBS), USMex, Member in good standing, 2¢ variety collector. See my want page: http://goccf.com/t/140440 |
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I tried to PM you Westcoin, can you confirm if you got that or not? I've been having trouble with my e-mailing off of CCF.
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The fun and excitement of owning a cool colonial coin!
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Thanks t360! I am enjoying learning about colonials. I've got a couple more shows coming up in the next month or two so hopefully I'll be able to find some more to add to my growing colonial collection!
-CH27
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I like you Nova Eborac. It has quite nice detail that shows well in spite of the surface issues.
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Thank you! I agree!
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I have a VERMONTENSIUM in similar condition but with more detail and a bit less porosity. In my opinion there's nothing wrong with your coin given its age and its history and I'm glad you decided to add it to your collection. Yes, it has corrosion, but choice condition examples are expensive and scarce.
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