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Whizzed Large Cent Question (1847)

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 Posted 09/18/2021  11:42 am Show Profile   Bookmark this topic Add johnny676767 to your friends list Get a Link to this Message Number of Subscribers
Hello,

I've never been sure what a whizzed coin looks like. I see coins sometimes "chiseled" around the devices to enhance a worn coin's appearance or show more detail, like drapery folds. I saw this coin designated as such and was wondering if anyone could point the the specific whizzed features. Thanks


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 Posted 09/18/2021  11:48 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Coinfrog to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Honestly, I can't see any evidence of whizzing.
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 Posted 09/18/2021  12:07 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add jacrispies to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I don't see any wizzing either. The chiseling around the devices is usually labeled as "tooling."
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 Posted 09/18/2021  12:27 pm  Show Profile   Check Zurie's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add Zurie to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Odd to see that designation on a toned, circulated coin. Nice RPD!
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 Posted 09/18/2021  1:07 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Oldfordman to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I would resubmit this coin.
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 Posted 09/18/2021  1:42 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add TNG to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Nice Large Cent in my opinion. I would crack it out and put it in a 2X2 and just be happy with it.
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 Posted 09/18/2021  3:08 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Coinfrog to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Exactly my thought.
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 Posted 09/18/2021  4:24 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add silverwolf to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Maybe whizzed, and re toned..
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 Posted 09/18/2021  5:24 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add element47 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I dont see any whizzing. Usually, at least from my limited experience with whizzed coins. There will be a whole lot of hairline scratches, typically in circular patterns
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 Posted 09/18/2021  5:28 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add element47 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I think id crack it out too. Sometimes the coins do get labeled wrong. Sometimes the grader makes mistakes too. Who knows
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 Posted 09/18/2021  11:26 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Jaobler to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Very nice photos!
The coin looks OK to me. Maybe the color is a little off and maybe there is a bit of glossy shine that is not original, but those are pretty minor criticisms. I agree there is little point in keeping this cent in this holder. It seems like a very harsh judgment for a pleasing copper coin.
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 Posted 09/19/2021  12:46 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add johnny676767 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Thank you, yes, I misspoke. The "chiseling" I referred to is properly called "tooling". So, "whizzing" is actually a type of smoothing, right?
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 Posted 09/19/2021  12:59 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add kbbpll to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
From an old NGC article
Quote:
Whizzing is created when a mechanical wire brush is taken to the surface of a coin at high speed. The result is a coin that has the appearance of brilliant luster but is distinctly not mint created luster.
I agree that this coin doesn't look whizzed; perhaps they mis-coded it and meant cleaned?
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Whizzing is done, usually by a rotary tool with a fine abrasive wheel, to simulate mint luster. It's usually done on below MS coins (XF-AU) in n attempts to make them look MS.

I also don't see obvious signs of whizzing, but it's possible the coin was handled after the process to attempt to hide the process with the oxidation. . Like others, I'd crack it and keep it an album coin.

Edit: kbbpll beat me to it
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ANACS is really good about correcting labeling errors. Give them a call before you do anything.


I sure don't see any evidence of whizzing. Possibly an old cleaning, but it looks market acceptable. Some scratches that may be considered graffiti, but that seems a stretch.
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IMHO, this copper's a details coin. I concur with the majority that it doesn't appear to be whizzed, as labeled. I'd call it heavily buffed and artificially retoned. My guess is that the culprit may have been an autobody repairman ....
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