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1928 Peace Dollar: Did PCGS Get It Right?

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I paid full Red Book for the grade on this slab. Am I a lucky sucker, or just a sucker?

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 Posted 11/25/2021  9:22 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add jacrispies to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I'll toss out an MS-62. This is a nice looking coin but I know grading is strict on these. Paying full Red Book either means the Red Book's price isn't accurate anymore, or you really want the coin!
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 Posted 11/25/2021  9:29 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add NumismaticsFTW to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
What year was the Red Book?
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I see some old album slide marks on the cheek of Liberty should be a technical AU but I'm going MS61.
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MS-61 I think
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I'll go out on a limb and guess it's MS62
{But is there a column for that grade?)
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Lack of apparent luster leaves me at AU-58.
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I think it is a slider, AU-58
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Taking a closer look, there is a significant amount of surface abrasions which would make it less than a 62. I agree with AU-58, plus there is a column for that in the book
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I'll say MS63 just because nobody else did. Maybe the pics are making things look too severe.
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Funny, the auction pics made the coin look a lot *better* that the pics I posted above, which I think are a lot more accurate. Compare them here. There are certain sellers I avoid just for that reason.


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The coin appears to be a slider 58 to 62. Put me in the 58 group.
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You would hardly think they were the same coin, though clearly they are.
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Out at the end of the limb - MS61...
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the sellers photos appear to be manipulated to hide the flaws. there is only one reason to do that.

I'm going with AU58 however very concerned about this area as the hairlines cross over the devices and number of them as well as all in the same direction could indicate some sort of wiping or cleaning. it would not be die polish lines. if you paid Red Book for an MS coin and can return this coin I would seriously consider that especially considering you bought the coin based on the photos presented which are not a representation of the actual coin.


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As you can see from the educated opinions of the people here, there is no legitimate "right grade" when it comes to slabbed coins. The companies themselves will tell you grading is an art, not a science. There is nothing scientific or verifiable they use in grading coins. It is the opinion of experienced graders only.

And...the grade of the same coin can change! This same coin broken out and resubmitted even to the same company is never guaranteed the same grade again.

To make it clear, notice I have not hurled any insults at the companies or anyone else. I also have not said anything negative if a person enjoys collecting slabbed coins - hobbies are about FUN and how we find that fun.

I am relaying the facts of the system to help better educate people into making wise choices when they enjoy collecting slabbed coins.

Too many people not understanding the reality lose too much money over these companies.

http://goccf.com/t/346174#2967242

http://goccf.com/t/130186

This is why CCF encourages people to buy the coin and not the slab.




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