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Pricing For A Centenary Florin

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 Posted 12/21/2021  07:30 am Show Profile   Bookmark this topic Add Misterpostman to your friends list Get a Link to this Message Number of Subscribers
I would like to buy a Centenary florin, but I don't want to overpay. Renniks says $300 for VF and $425 for EF. Are these prices realistic, or can they be had for less?
I want a problem free VF to EF to complete my florin set, and maybe even a second one for my Australian type set. Any advice or tips would be appreciated. Thanks
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 Posted 12/21/2021  07:51 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add coaster to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
If you do a search of 'Sold & Completed Items' for a 1934-35 Melbourne Centenary Florin on ebay Australia it will give you a good indication of what they are selling for in different grades at the moment.
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I would like to buy a Centenary florin, but I don't want to overpay. Renniks says $300 for VF and $425 for EF. Are these prices realistic, or can they be had for less?


If those prices are US$ then they are a ballpark figure.The last couple of years has seen demand rise for whatever reason.
Hard to pick up a decent grade on ebay Oz.for under A$400,i buy as many as I can and haven't purchased a good grade for over a year,always outbid.
Hard to say if prices will fall or we are at the new normal.
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The few I've seen for sale in the last few years (few only because I haven't been looking) have been low to mid hundreds for VF to EF and $1000+ for UNC or better.
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 Posted 12/21/2021  9:28 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add ryurazu to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
beware of fakes for this ones they can range from very poor ones to exceptional good fakes.
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 Posted 12/22/2021  04:36 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add nealeffendi to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I purchased one about 4 months ago B.I.N. of $750 (AUD). Grade wise it is nicer than my MS64s and my MS65. So there are still decent examples out there among all the cleaned or otherwise problematic samples.
The other issue buying online is that far too many coins have been shot to hide the faults. Unless you have the coin in hand to rotate then hairlines are easy to miss. Is there shine due to a polished die (good) or elbow grease (bad).
Fakes are only an issue if you are not experienced. Unfortunately unless you already have some nice examples of genuine florins then you may not know what to look for. Plus they were struck from various die pairs in both circulation and "proof" strikes and with varying rims such that it isn't easy for the inexperienced to know what is right and what is suspect.
For around 6-800 AUD you can buy a MS64 example to avoid the pitfalls.
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 Posted 12/22/2021  05:02 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Princetane to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I landed on my feet with this coin back in March.

I got my one, good EF for only $330NZD which is around $320AUD.But this was New Zealand where in general Australian coins are cheaper here than there, but the USA should be cheap too.

Please read this thread which discusses fake detection skills and also shows this paragon of a coin I brought. Originally some people thought it was fake, until they realised it was just a really bad photo taken by me.

http://goccf.com/t/401300

Some facts.

Despite being dated 1934/35, evidence suggests the coins were not released until March 1935.

They were sold at 3/- each, a full 50% mark up on face value and minted to the same size and standard as other Australian Florins in the 1930s. Many were sold and or given away through Foy and Gibson department stores in Melbourne and Perth! They came in little paper bags which are collectors items in their own right.

75,000 coins were minted, however 21,000 of these were melted down and only 54k or so exist. Basically it was still the depression in early 1935 and few people were willing to pay a shilling extra for a coin worth the same as other Florins. The mania for collecting coins and stamps only took off a year or two later.

The coin shows a Kruger Grey Portrait of King George V not seen on any other Australian KGV coin.

Generally you will not find them in conditions under high VF, most coins were brought as collectors pieces and salted away. Most are EF and AU, as they were handled a bit and the soft silver wore fast, so truly UNC and high grade MS state ones are very rare. EF coins should cost you no more than $500 and as little as $275. This contrasts severely with most Aussie Florins of the era which are usually very worn (Fair to Fine).

Numerous fakes abound and usual hints to spot them include.

1. The hand on the horses rump has no detail on fakes
2. Poor hair detail of rider.
3. Some letters join on obverse
4. The robe of the king does not meet the rim of the coin at 5 oclcok on the reverse.

5. The coin should weigh 11.32 grams + 0.10 gram and be 28.2 - 28.5mm in size. The edge is reeded and silver is 92.5%

6. Good luck in your purchase, its a beautiful coin and ticks off a set well with those 1932 Florins and 1938 Crowns!
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Thanks everybody. The amounts I mentioned in my original post were AUD. I have updated my profile, I have moved for the US to Australia a little over a year ago. I collect US and Australian coins, also Canadian and some UK coronation medals. I bought a 1932 florin in F for $350 after looking at dozens, still shopping around for the Centenary florin. Pincetane, you did very well. I think I would need to pay at least $400 for a similar coin. Many are listed at $500+
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