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So this came up and seemed to go pretty reasonable for a flip over double strike, but I think like most folks who would have looked at it there is some doubt. It was sold by a seller I respect so pretty sure no trouble with a return if it turns out to be a fake. The weight is good at 2.47g as it is zinc, but it has enough weirdness that I am unsure if it is real. The edge has an offset, like a partial collar might look, and the obverse has what sort of appears like a folded over Rim Fin around we trust while there is extensive minor finning on the reverse by UNITED and ONE. The surfaces are a bit granular. The coin shows corrosion, like it has been in circulation and wasn't just faked and put out there, but also it has been cleaned in places somewhat harshly. Was that someone trying to remove some corrosion or hide some effect of making a fake? Lastly, the secondary image, which I suppose would have been the first strike, is pretty much correctly oriented between the obverse and reverse so it would have been a good job getting that correct. I guess I also note that AMERICA on the bust is pretty sharp, and that the die crack on the reverse seems to go through the finning bit which is confusing. Calling on some help here, as I have no idea if this thing is real or not. Thanks! 1982 Lincoln Memorial cent mint error - flip over double strike or fake          |
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Pillar of the Community
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Since the double struck devices are raised, I call genuine  , one would think a vise job they would be incuse. |
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I saw this one as well, but passed because I had doubts about authenticity just as you do. Unfortunate I can't help with authenticating, but I sure hope it's real! It would be a great addition to your collection.
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looking at the edge, it looks like a partial collar. The die crack looks funny though, it does not show on top of the D which is something I would expect.
On the obverse in the field the reverse lettering (in between liberty and in [of IGWT]) looks like just wide outlines of 'CENT' which is also strange.
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Bedrock of the Community
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Edited by coop
01/09/2022 6:42 pm
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Bedrock of the Community
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The steps on the memorial building are rather curious.
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Bedrock of the Community
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Sure looks good to me, congrats.
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Bedrock of the Community
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Edited by coop
01/09/2022 6:45 pm
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Wow that is pretty cool @tb. We will have to point to this thread the next time someone posts a vise job.
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"The danger we all now face is distinguishing between what is authentic and what is performed."
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Pillar of the Community
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Seems like the winds are blowing in favor of a solid error. Would still like to understand these fins and the partial collar-looking bit better.
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Looks a bit strange to me. Probably because it is a zinc planchet, in which the copper was worn off in a few places. Has the look of a cast coin. Neat!
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I bid on that one so I thought it was the real deal. Seller had the wrong description.
Great looking error and nice pick up TB.
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Bedrock of the Community
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I am going to say REAL. It doesn't seem to have some of the characteristics a fake would have. My vote is genuine!  |
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I am more skeptical than some people seem to be. The weakness of some details in the second strike (especially the steps on the memorial building) makes me suspect this could be a post-mint counterfeit error made using a softer-metal die cast from a coin rather than hubbed from harder metal. I could be wrong, but something about it doesn't quite pass the eye test for me.
Edited by SamCoin
01/10/2022 01:28 am
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I was thinking a "soft die" fake,but this is not my area. John1  |
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I have no problem accepting this as a genuine in-collar, flipover double strike. The plating seems to have been unusually thin and quickly worn-through. Defective plating presumably also accounts for the granular texture on both faces. These might be micro-blisters or something related. It's not unexpected for 1982 cents to have plating issues, as the Mint and its outside suppliers were still working out the kinks in this first year of issue.
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