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I Think I Found Gold: 1943 Copper Penny No Mint Mark

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 Posted 03/20/2022  2:23 pm Show Profile   Bookmark this topic Add Macsco to your friends list Get a Link to this Message Number of Subscribers
Would a 1943 copper penny with no mint marks fetch
A hefty price? It's in pretty good condition just edge looks double struck and above Lincolns head where it
Says "trust" its worn together
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Would be wonderful if you could post full, large and sharp photos of the obverse and reverse. Also, test to see if the coin is magnetic. An accurate weight would help too. Thanks.
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Did you test it with a magnet?
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to CCF. We really need photos. no mint mark means it was minted at the Philly mint. Could also be a re-plated coin after it left the mint which would make it PMD=post mint damage.
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to the CCF!
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We will have to see a clear full picture of both sides plus the
weight to two decimal points to determine if it is genuine.
There are many more counterfeits out there than genuine 1943 copper coins.
PS- Not sure what you mean by edges double struck Need Photos.
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The are available online for a few bucks. The Chinese have been making fakes for years and we see people finding the copper 43s or stell 44s here from time to time.

I have one of each I bought to study the quality of modern Chinese fakes. The double struck collar you mention is not uncommon for the lack of quality used in these companies. They are only mainly out to fool people not familiar with coins b/c seasoned collectors will be able to tell them without too much of a problem (expecially this fake b/c it is such a common fake to find).

On the other hand, you may have one of the copper plated ones they used to (even!) sell in stores back in the 70s as a joke coin (others being two headed coins, a coin with a nail attached to pound into the floor and watch people try to pick it up, etc.)

But, as has been said, pictures will go a long way towards knowing for sure.

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It did not stick to a magnet and the weight read 3.1g
Here's some pics of front back and date and diff angles
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To complete Early, In general the Chinese fake for numismatic purpose are not plated. They the Chinese are masters from thousands of years of alloy producers. They can make almost every color of the original coins metal without use them. Here me I thing you have those games coins. What diameter and gr. is?

Other thing: in 1944 was brass use for coins (the gildden brass) with a different color then bronze or cooper.

An photo and dimensions will elucidate this case.
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Also, can you confirm this has coin alignment and not medal alignment?
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Due to the photos, do not show been cooper. This color is attributed to others alloys been magnetic and also non magnetic. Cooper alloy base do not took this forms of oxide coloration. Seem to be an type of the ferrous metal.
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From all that I have read, the bottom line is "further testing" to confirm all the guesses that are being thrown about. This person is 4 post in and everyone is an expert. It needs further testing in my view.
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@ sirguardian. The test you mention was ask. For me only the gr. and magnetic test is need. The rest show IMO the ES from STATES was strike over the greases.
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Macsco -- If you feel you have a legit cooper '43, consider submitting it to a reputable 3rd party grading service. If you do, please let us know the findings. Thanks.
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edge looks double struck
Extremely common in counterfeit Lincoln cents.

Here's another example from my archive of over 100 1943 fake copper Lincoln cents.
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It's a counterfeit. All you have to do is look at the position of the 3
compared to a genuine one.I find this the easiest way.
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