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Hi guys. I am primarily an ancient collector but have accidently acquired a US Indian cent that I have a few questions about. I am fairly positive that I have I'd it as a 1909 DDO FS-101 Snow 1. My questions are is this worth sending to PCGS since they acknowledge this type and then keeping it, does the patina looked jacked with (not worth PCGS if so), what does the grade look like, or just sell it on ebay and let someone else play with it? Thanks for your response. Two phone pics and one microscope pic showing the L/L.    *** Moved by Staff to a more appropriate forum. *** |
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Bedrock of the Community
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The 'L' looks like Machine Doubling if that is what you are seeing.  The Devices on "Of America' Appear larger on the FS-101 S-1  Edited by coop
04/11/2022 5:58 pm
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That is a nice looking cent, regardless.  |
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Hey Coop. maybe you need to do a bit of research before you make a post. LOL.
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Bedrock of the Community
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Post here to our grading forum and get an idea of what members thing the slabbers might give this one. Then look for similar slabbed items sold at Heritage coin auctions a that grade level to get an idea of cost. Then take into account membership fees, shipping and insurance (both ways), attribution fees, and slabbing fees. Then you have an idea if its worth your money.
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No comment on the variety without sharper pics. Sharper pics also needed to get a better feel for the surfaces. At first glance, surface look questionable to me and may end up pulling a Details grade. Looks low AU (maybe AU53) to me, so even IF it straight graded, I would say not worth the cost of sending in for grading.
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Looks like a good candidate for the DDO but the pictures aren't clear enough for me to make a decisive conclusion. -CH27 Collector of U.S. Coins, Varieties, and Colonial Coinage
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Great...thanks for posting, I have several rolls of 09 IHCs, 1 more thing added to my "to do list"
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Quote:Looks like a good candidate for the DDO but the pictures aren't clear enough for me to make a decisive conclusion. I concur as well. Looks like it sure could be but need to see clearer shot of the "L" area. Here is a copy of what Rick Snow has to say in his book: Quote:
Number of obverse dies estimated: 36 - 29
(estimated using 400,000 to 500,000 per die.
Many dies show the designers initial doubled. This
was created on the master die, transferred to a hub and
subsequently to numerous dies. It is of slight interest to
collectors, but is very common. It appears as a large L
over a small L. It is starred in his book designating a popular variety worth chasing after. I only was able to find a couple that sold all in MS64 PCGS and they went for $450 to $600 in the past 12 months. Being the most common of the 1909 varieties it needs to be worth it to pay for the designation from PCGS. "Buy the Book Before You Buy the Coin" - Aaron R. Feldman - "And read it" - Me 2013! ANA Life Member #3288 in good standing since 1981, ANS, Early American Coppers Member (EAC), Colonial Coin Collectors Club member (C4), Conder Token Collector Club member (CTCC), Civil War Token Society (CWTS) member, Liberty Seated Collectors Club (LSCC) & Numismatic Bibliomania Society member (NBS), USMex, Member in good standing, 2¢ variety collector. See my want page: http://goccf.com/t/140440 |
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Hey guys. Thank all of you for your input- specially you Coop- I know you get a lot of post from collectors that think they just found the next 55 double die. Here is what I have decided to do-I am not a US collector- so- I am going to spend the $80 or so to find out about the patina and the variety. Then respond back in couple of months when I find out what PCGS has to say.
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I look forward to seeing the results! Best of luck!
-CH27
Collector of U.S. Coins, Varieties, and Colonial Coinage
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If you're not familiar with submitting, make sure to notate the variety and notate you want the variety attribution on the submission. It's a service you have to pay for and some are not aware of this and assume PCGS will just do this for them.
If you're aware, then disregard.
Keep us posted.
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Bedrock of the Community
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Not worth grading in my honest opinion.  Edited by Coinfrog
04/14/2022 6:17 pm
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Hi yall. I have just sent a request to Mr. Snows people at Eagle Eye, to see if for a fee, we can find out about the variety and the patina. And, I am not a guy to care about cost to settle a question- Coinfrog. LOL. Here is the type of coin I like. Mint state coin minted at Roman London in the year 323AD. Mint mark PLON in ex. Patinated original silvering. The Romans minted silvered "coins" that were actually used as markers for "denarii communes" representing gold and silver held in government banks. LOL! Sound familiar?  |
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And, I am not a guy to care about cost to settle a question- Coinfrog. LOL. With respect, then why ask our opinion if it's worth sending in? Keep us posted, curious how it turns out. Without sharper pics, I'm still at a possible AU Details, not worth the costs involved. |
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