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Hard to believe that someone would include a 1799 large cent in a "lot" listing... I asked ebay about it but it's still up for sale as of now.  |
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Huh. I just looked up 1799 large cent; didn't know they cost so much! I agree - sort of suspicious. They might have just started out with a low starting bid, though.
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Fake
Very easy to tell
You realize when you know how to think, it empowers you far beyond those who know only what to think.
-Neil deGrasse Tyson
Edited by NumismaticsFTW
06/19/2022 1:02 pm
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I was looking at the 1799 to see if I was interested in placing a bid. The coin is heavily corroded, damaged and worn making it difficult to evaluate. There are some of the die markers that appear correct, but the 7 in the date is off as it is too close to the 9 and too low.
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Very easy to tell Why are these so easy to tell that the coins are fake? |
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For some folks here, it is easy as they deal with that type of coin all the time. Just like I can spot a 1982 large date over a small date within a second after looking at it.
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Very easy to tell This comment simply tells us that your eye for fakes is better than most. Slider23 makes a good point. This is a "teaching moment." What diagnostics are so off target that make this '99 such an obvious fake? BTW, here's a link: https://www.ebay.com/itm/374136163589 Edited by ExoGuy
06/19/2022 2:48 pm
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Not so obvious fakes from these photos. Closeups would help tell for sure. First impression is genuine. I am curious why NumismaticsFTW thinks the 1799 is an easily recognizable counterfeit.
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That 1795 looks odd, I dismissed based on that.
I wouldn't take the chance personally, but maybe some experts can chime in.
You realize when you know how to think, it empowers you far beyond those who know only what to think.
-Neil deGrasse Tyson
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Ok, I'm definitely curious now to see what price this ends up given the responses above. I'm assuming ebay either thinks it's real or doesn't care seeing as how the listing has yet to be removed. It also makes me wonder how good ebay is at independently catching fakes or if they mainly rely upon people alerting them to listings with potential issues. |
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Quote:It also makes me wonder how good ebay is at independently catching fakes or if they mainly rely upon people alerting them to listings with potential issues. Someone with more knowledge can correct me, but impression is that it is mainly the latter. Then again, maybe their algorithms are catching a ton before they even get posted to ebay. "If you climb a good tree, you get a push."
-----Ghanaian proverb
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The 1799 is a four-figure coin in the lowest grade, and it's being sold in a lot with two other coins? That's enough of a red flag for me. What's up with the gold stuff? Gut feeling is that this is plated replica jewelry that ended up in the ground, or some cheap Chinese attempt to disguise.
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Someone is willing to spend $309 (or maybe more) to see if at least one is genuine; and if not, return them.
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If the 1795 is a counterfeit, would it be an older counterfeit not made recently? Perhaps a numismatic forgery from many decades ago?
What I'm wondering is if modern counterfeiters have the ability to also counterfeit "circulation wear," where cuts, dings, and marks can be made to appear genuine when in fact all those characteristics are falsified. Faking an older coin that appears to be uncirculated or lightly circulated is one thing, but also faking the appearance of decades of circulation is another challenge all to itself (it would seem to me) because each cut, scratch, or dent would have varying levels of wear on them, or appear that way.
What features on the 1795 were the dead giveaway?
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Posted 06/19/2022 11:55 am
