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2015 P Dime. Odd Missing Elements. Maybe Die Wear ?

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Can't figure this one out. Parts of the dime looks good and others are just missing. Could be grease but it also looks like bad die wear. What to you think ?
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I think you nailed it. Looks like extreme die wear and also a Grease Filled Die.
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Good-looking Greaser!
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Yes looks to me like you got the right diagnosis as well.
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 Posted 07/29/2022  8:13 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add hewart to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Thanks guys. The only thing that's odd is the right side of the obverse has a depression in it. I suppose it could be related to the deterioration.
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Is a depression or just a stain? Stains can be very misleading.
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nice Greaser - that 'thing at K3 as -make- asked is it a dent or depression? It looks like a stain to me so far.
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OK... Here are a few more photos. I don't see a stain. What you are seeing is a shadow. I think these pics should clear that up.
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This die may have been damaged with Feeder Finger Damage during it run and was polished that weakened some of the devices. (These devices would be smaller in size, while the stuck through grease would be lower looking and wider looking)
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Thanks to everyone. I think this was an offset strike. It the die landed off and was tilted, it could explain the heavy impression on one side and the light impression on the other. The reverse also shows the same light impression but not as dramatic. Grease Fill often causes missing or partial elements but the surface around these looks rough. The one piece that leads me in that direction is the depressed area on the obverse. A harder strike on that side might have caused that.
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Not sure exactly what you mean by "offset strike".

If you're suggesting a low pressure ("die adjustment") strike, I'm not sure I agree. The rims are fully struck on both sides and there's no symmetry of device weakness on both sides.

Strong rims and obscured devices almost always means a Grease Filled Die was the culprit. Since the rim is actually part of the die, on a tilted die you would expect to see a difference in the rim from one side of side of the obverse to the other side of the obverse, just as in the example you linked to.

The depression could have been caused by the grease, or as Coop suggested by the die having been over polished.
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Thanks HGK3. By offset strike I did mean a misaligned die. I see a lot of grease issues and this just looked different. "The pole that is well struck will show a very strong design rim and often finning of the rim." Just because the rim did not show finning of the rim does not mean this could not be a misaligned die. However, I am still learning so I will leave this as is and I appreciate your comment.
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