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1945 DDR Penny Extra Wheat Stalks?

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I thought they were scratches at first but after closer inspection they are not scratches they are definitely on top of the coin and they are recessed. Please let me know your thoughts thank you.
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@alia, are you sure that it isn't just a group of weird scrapes that happen to be roughly parallel to the wheat stalks?
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My vote is PMD.
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Yes I thought they were scratches as well so I took the last 3 hours taking pictures as close as possible to coin itself so I could see if there was a gouge into the coin amd there isn't. Its definitely on top of it. At first I figured it was the circle scratch thing you see in some coins. So I went and I had one so I used that as a reference and its night and day. So this one stumped me. You can see in the pictures where it even goes from thin to thicker and in another pic ypu can see the edge of the O in One and use its edge to the coin as a reference. Same as in-between the the "grass stocks" ypu can see its level with the coins flat surface it hasn't gone Into the coins surface as I had expected it would. Really wierd.
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Also in the last picture if you look at the 2nd to the last piece of wheat grass (thats supposed to be there) (from the bottom up) you can see where "itself" goes into the "extra wheat stock" its the same thickness has the same taper / lines its really wierd. If you zoom in on the pictures you'll see its on top and it Marys together. I would totally think a scratch IF there was some recesses into the coin but there aren't any, every side and in-between as shown in pictures are the same level and flat as the coin is so I have no idea. I'm Thinking I may send it in ? I dont know not that it would be worth millions or anything would just be cool to know if thats really what it is " an extra wheat -thing - a - ma - bobber " and yes I'm pretty sure that is the scientific term for it lol. Anyhow working on more close up pictures like CLOSE up but I assure you 100% there are no recesses in the coin its all on top of it. Thank you all guys and girls for your input I'm new but I've been doing a ton of reading and fact checking and this one stumped me.
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on top of the coin and they are recessed


Your statement above left room for part of the curved elements to be above the surface of the cent while another part was below.

I think I understand now though. No parts are below the surface—only above, is that right?
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Correct Spence sorry I'm going to chew on my foot for a little. What I was poorly trying to say was. The extra "wheat grass" is not a scratch because I dont see it going into the coin at all. (Will remove the word recessed) the coin is flat on all.sides of the "wheat grass" I tried to take super close pictures but it just doesn't look the same as it does on my phone. Ill keep tryin if need be. Thanks again
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I'm with John1, PMD. Looks like damage that has been rolled over.
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Agree, this is PMD.
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So I can learn with PMD what can add metal to a coin like this I've seen the scratches from the mint feeders and the ridges of coins across other as well just nothing like this
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So if something rolls over it and then leaves a raised edge what does that ? sorry I didn't ask my question correctly.
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A coin can be scratched/gouged and then the metal is rolled over the area it was taken from. Over time, it can even look like a crack.
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I'm seeing post-strike damage. I don't believe the coin left leave the striking chamber with that feature. May be an artifact of a snagged or out of adjustment mechanical wrapping machine--may be...
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This is damage from a coin roll crimper. 100%. Use the search tab above.
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Is the coin roll crimper thing the same thing that causes crenulations in coins ? if so these don't look like that so wierd thanks all
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I refer to it as coin wrapper damage. If the coin was wrapped recently since the tube rolls, this can be the cause of what you are seeing. This turns the coin into a cull coin from the damage. But it is still a Wheat cent.
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