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Hello friends. I just inherited a large coin collection. My eyes are crossed after just looking at part of it. I am so new to this but want to learn as much as I can. I was looking through the pennies and came across a 1940 with what appears to be a backward D. I know it's not an actual D and the zero appears to have been partially taken out by the die strike? What are your thoughts?  |
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Pillar of the Community
United States
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The copper alloy is pretty soft and at some point in the last 80+ years, the "0" took a hit that flattened and moved metal.
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Bedrock of the Community
United States
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Possibly damage from a vending machine.  to the CCF! |
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Pillar of the Community
United States
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Could be a hit from something or that area is notorious for being damaged from vending machine like gum balls ect...
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United States
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Bedrock of the Community
United States
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Bedrock of the Community
Australia
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It looks like some of the '0' has been dislodged, but not broken off.
Handle this coin with care.
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Pillar of the Community
United States
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I have seen this on so many cents from this year that I actually bought an MS example showing it. Unsure what is going on, and away from home right now, but looking to solve this later this fall as I don't think it's PMD but in no position right now to address it. |
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Pillar of the Community
 United States
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The line is parallel with the rim which makes me think it's damage from the coin mechanism of an old Gumball Machine or other vending device. The turn of the handle FORCES the coin through the slot/testing device and moves the product into the correct position at the same time. Sometimes the coin drags and other times the gumball is crushed. It's a fairly primitive mechanism. Occasionally you can tell when something is off because you have to apply heavy pressure to the handle.  ANA ID: 3203813 - CONECA ID: N-5637 Clean a coin that may be worth collecting? Please DON'T! When in doubt, leave it dirty!! 
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New Member
 United States
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Thank you for replying. If this zero had been scraped off in a circular motion wouldn't there be scrapes before and after the zero? I tried scraping the zero off and on another penny tried to flatten the zero edge to no avail and damage was done to the surrounding area. I would love to here your findings when you are able. Thank you for the reply.
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New Member
United States
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Good info my friends. Thank you.
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Pillar of the Community
Canada
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This coin was hit. You can see the remining from the original 0 SE of the strait line.@theCoins: the science and the mechanic science, you will be surprise to find out that the theory and practice do not fit in many cases.
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08/27/2022 02:21 am
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New Member
United States
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Being struck makes sense. The line is straight not curved and the original part of the 0 is visible. To me it seems this couldn't be done as PMD because the end of the strike is exactly the same height as the base of the 1, 9, and 4. Seems like a precise strike (die)? To have a random strike damage just this small area so precisely with something so small seems unlikely. Hmmmm... |
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Canada
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I do not know what is your knowledge of the Dies manufacture, but will put away this. Look at the two ends of the straight line is raise. Mean the material was dispatch and accumulate on this corners. Inside still be a little curve. Other thing: if was the die at least 10k coins was struck like this and was already know exist, but by the processes of making Dies is impossible to have this. Look better, the corners are raised.
Easy to do by any handyman this kind of damage. We see all the time.
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08/27/2022 03:44 am
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United States
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Looks like PSD from a coin counting-wrapping-vending machine. If it is on a MS coin, it might be from a counting machine at the mint? John1  |
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thecoins said... Quote:
I tried scraping the zero off and on another penny tried to flatten the zero edge to no avail and damage was done to the surrounding area. If you think the coin is possibly valuable, you shouldn't do anything that could damage the surfaces. I don't think it's a problem in this case, but if the coin had been a rare error or variety, this could have been costly. ANA ID: 3203813 - CONECA ID: N-5637 Clean a coin that may be worth collecting? Please DON'T! When in doubt, leave it dirty!!
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Posted 08/26/2022 10:44 pm
