Am I Looking At A DDR On This 2016 Shield Cent

Coin shown is a 2013. What attribution number do you think it might be? Pics need improving, going by these pics I see no DDR.
John1

Yea I kinda figured that part out on my own after many hours of wasted efforts, I first started with decades, then half decades, now in process of doing yrs & mints, however I've searched enough years on coppercoins, and others, to remember a few key yrs, some things to look for and while no really big $ items in 2013, my bad on 2016 (which is another I usually take a gander through the pocket loupe at too) I did remember it having a cpl variations, so I looked at cc and the 2nd DDR is what I was comparing with and found the markers along with 002, 001 & 002 pretty similar

Also make note cards starting from1960, detailing the years and mints, how many DDO's, # of DDR's, brief descriptions of each and which have big ticket items

I know people argue back and forth about the term penny or cent, but a definition and a bit of time period history seems too much for most people to look up to se if they are right.

The mint calls the coins pennies and always has. When the US first introduced these coins, people had to know what the value of the coins was.

Unlike today, Latin was considered an important part of schooling. Anyone with an education knew Latin.

When the Latin-knowledgeable society of the day people encountered this new copper penny for the first time, they noted the term "ONE CENT" on the reverse was accompanied with the fraction 1/100.

Knowing:
1. The Latin word for 100 is centum, and
2. The word "cent" was derived from the Latin meaning "one hundredth part,"

their minds would automatically recognize, no hesitation, "ONE CENT" meant it took 100 of these newfangled pennies to make a dollar. The fraction was there for simple value verification.

But...but...
I saw a guy on youtube...

OK...throw out the history and meaning of the terms involved. Throw out the cultural realities of the day. After all those people were so dumb back then they didn't even have iphones!

Yup...the educated heads of the mint in those days were just too ignorant (probably could not even spell "penny" so engraved "cent" into the die) to know they were making cents and not pennies.

After all, as mentioned, those people wasted all their time time in school learning ridiculous things like Latin! All Latin does is give someone a much firmer grasp on our own vocabulary and understanding why a lot of the things we do and say are the way they are. Come to think of it, even English is something we don't need to study anymore b/c our machines do it all for us.

:)

To throw an additional curveball, the dime doesn't say ten cents (although they used to...

So no argument is perfect because denomination naming is inconsistent.

Technically correct! The initial ones did say the then-current version of the word dime (and Half Dimes as well).

What did the word dime mean to the colonials? It did not conjure up a picture of a coin b/c there were none until just then.

The word "dime" on the coin automatically registered in the colonial mind as what it's meaning is: one tenth value. The term was common in their culture since it was associated with the concept of a tithe (church offering - b/c in the Bible it can be found one tenth of a Christian's earnings was a suggested tithe). And of course in the Colonial era the church played a much more influential role in personal lives and society. A contemporary persone seeing disme automatically associated the term as one tenth.

Disme is of French origin (Latin decima) and we (should) know the French had a huge influence in settling the New Word to the extent the influence is alive in modern culture/language as well.

So in this case of the disme, the name and value did/do match up (unlike the penny and ONE CENT).

However, had the mint wanted to, they could have named a disk of metal representing dime (value term) a quatloo. If they had, we no doubt would have people "correcting" others for using the term quatloo.




I kind of like it....
"Mercury Qautloo collection"

I know...I know...people were "dumb" back then for calling it Mercury and should have been enlightened enough to call it Winged Liberty?
Yeah...we the enlightened don't use nicknames for anything nowadays do we?