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1964 D LMC Rim Flakes And Other Issues

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I've been looking at this 1964 D on and off for more than a week. The coin is in very good condition. I did some research and beyond lamination or a plating issue I'm having trouble understanding the detail of the issues.

I don't have enough experience to understand what is going on with the coin so any help would be appreciated from those who do.

1. Several metal flakes along the rim on and in between IGWT
2. The metal in center of the R in TRUST seems to be extruded and rolled out and over from the center. PMD?
3. The U in TRUST has a irregular ridge that runs most of the length of the letter.
4. Same with the S, it has sharp edges. Seems to me to be an issue with the strike.
4. The 2nd T in TRUST also has a ridge across the upper bar of the letter.
5. The R in LIBERTY is visibly larger than the rest of the letters. This is probably within tolerances but just looks unique.

My understanding of Die Deterioration is limited to wear that causes the devices to flatten and move toward the rim. The issues with the IGWT are sharp edged.

The reverse of the coin is unremarkable.

Thanks for looking and your feedback.

Hopefully, my photos are clear enough to convey the issues.
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 Posted 11/02/2022  2:34 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add nick10 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
the anomalies near trust look like a Rim Fin
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 Posted 11/02/2022  2:41 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add coop to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Looks more like sliding contact to me on that area. This is a nice die state on this coin. Note the fields?
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 Posted 11/02/2022  2:41 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Earle42 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
You are trying too hard!

Just one example is when you said the R is different in size and "probably within tolerances."

There were no tolerances levels (as in some being smaller and some being larger with those outside of the range being rejected) in the lettering.




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If you want to catch a rainbow trout, you need to know what a rainbow trout is.

The same with coins.

Most odd looking things on coins are just post mint damage ( PMD)

Save Yourself time, effort, and disappointment...don't learn the coin hobby backwards.

Looking for random anomalies on coins and hoping they match up to something collectable will take you a lot more time, wasted effort, and disappointment repeatedly finding out you have nothing but post mint damage or useless Machine Doubling, Die Deterioration, etc.

Spend some initial time at places like error-ref.com, doubleddie.com, varietyvista.com, conecaonline.org, coppercoins.com etc. to find what actual and collectable coin errors look like.

A good way to start is, for instance, separate a bunch of pennies by date. Go to varietyvista.com and, date by date, use the reference there to see what errors are known for that specific coin/mint mark. Look for those specific errors/varieties using the pictures provided. After doing this for awhile you will KNOW what an actual error looks like and not have to waste time on face value and damaged coins.
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11/02/2022 2:43 pm
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Earle thank you for your educational perspective regarding coinage and what is a valuable error. I believe your advice is valid with regard to sources, methods and research. I have leveraged these sources for more hours than I can count. I enjoy spending my time looking for anomolies that are not PMD. Please forgive me if I post questions here after I've exhausted my limited understanding and experience of numismatics. I hope to some day to understand the difference between the most nuanced mint and post mint errors. However, I don't do this for a living, therefore I believe true value is subjective and less than intrinsic. Thank you for your time and response.
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 Posted 11/02/2022  5:15 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add NY Islander to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Coop,

I'm not sure I understand the meaning of your response. I assume you mean this is not a deteriorated die when you say "This is a nice die state on this coin"... Also, please define "sliding contact".

Thank you.
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