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This one looks really good at first glance, but then you start sniffing around the area between UNITED and the rim. You have to angle the coin to see the gap, and my effort at photographing that was a total failure, but it is overhung there and the gap can be seen up under there. A very nice effort by someone. 1985 Lincoln Memorial cent - counterfeit rotated dies 130 degrees, 2.45g    |
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So the cent itself is real but the rotation was machined post strike? that's impressive.
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So how can you 100% rule out that it is not a genuine rotated die?It is within mint tolerance weight.Is the style of the dies normal for the year,on the obverse and reverse? John1  |
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Why would someone go through the effort to fake this? Does a genuine error of this sort add a lot of value?
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This is a new one for me.
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the area between UNITED and the rim In your pics, the clearest evidence of one coin being hollowed out and having another placed within is near ONE and the corner of the Lincoln memorial. I wonder if this isn't someone's "practice" coin as they gear up to perform similar surgery on more valuable coins. "If you climb a good tree, you get a push."
-----Ghanaian proverb
"The danger we all now face is distinguishing between what is authentic and what is performed."
-----King Adz
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Show your financial support of the Coin Community Family (click here)See my topic on Mexican Numismatic Medals (click here) |
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I echo @nickelsearcher's question - does the real McCoy have that much value?
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That area along the rim by ONE could just be copper plating peel. John1 |
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does the sound it makes when dropped ring true? that is difficult to replicate on a coin made from two halves of others
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I hadn't thought about doing a tink test. So I gently dropped it on my desk as well as three zinc test coins. It sounds a slight bit lower, but doesn't have some unnatural thud or clunk to it. I'd say it sounds close enough to the real sound that using that test does not prove things one way or the other.
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I wish you could get better pictures of the edge around the area of FG where the rim looks split.
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The FG area is easy to photograph, but am doing so through the slip as this poor thing has already been in and out of slips a couple times now. It clearly shows the seam, but, this is also remarkably similar to what a MAD can look like. But if it were MAD, then the opposite rim would be weak, and in this case that is actually where the strongest rim is (note the deep shadow there compared to other parts of the rim).  |
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Might need Mike on this? John1 |
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I wonder what is inside?  Open it!!   |
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I thought it was odd that the obverse has heavy plating issue lines and the reverse does not, they just typically mimic each other. I wonder if the reverse piece, if it is a fake, could be copper? It's the correct reverse design for an 85 but there are also coppers with this reverse design. No zinc is showing through on the high points either but if it's been in flips, that may have protected it.
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Posted 12/18/2022 04:15 am
