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1890-CC Declined Restoration, Thoughts On Home Resto Techniques?

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Hello,

Picked up an 1890-CC in an older ANACS holder with known blemish. Based on the purchase price, I thought I might be able to send into PCGS restoration and get a straight-grade out and come out ahead. Naturally this did not happen and PCGS declined to touch the blemish and called it "UNC Details- Env Dam stained".

I am not sure what the stain is but at this point I thought I might take an attempt at removal since PCGS has consigned it to a Details coin. Or I suppose I could send to NGC but I worry they might also decline.

Trueview snippet is below. Any thoughts on how to remove? Or what it might be?
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Once metal has etched, the etching will remain. Sometimes attempts at restoration may improve the eye appeal, remain unchanged, or makes worse.
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 Posted 01/17/2023  7:26 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add westernsky to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Redfield basement peach juice stain would be my first guess. If so, probably not removable.
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If you look at the area around America and United, the coin may have already been dipped and the top layer of metal removed with toning. This could be the reason PCGS did not want to conserve the coin as it was going to be in a details holder with or without the stain.

Option 1 - Soak in acetone to remove the stain if the stain does not come off do nothing else.
Option 2 - After a soak in acetone, dip the coin in something like eZest. The problem with eZest, it may remove the stain, but also the top layer of metal with the stain.

My recommendation is to do nothing and leave the coin as is in the holder.
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 Posted 01/17/2023  7:53 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add drdn to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I suspect you may be correct that anything I do to the coins has a fair chance to worsen its appearance. I was hoping for a magic solution (pun intended) to this issue.

I am 50/50 at cracking it out and taking a pass on acetone or similar. I'll sleep on a week or two and see how I feel then.
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So professionals wouldn't restore this.

You would rather ruin this coin further by at home restoration?
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It's a goner, and best left alone.



to the CCF!
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Sadly, Coinfrog is right.
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Any chance we could get a non tru-view picture? I'm just curious what the stain looks like under normal conditions.
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Leave it alone. If you auction it a coiin doctor might buy it thinking he can fix it.
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Any home made remedy will only dull it.
I agree with all here it would only make it worst.
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Plenty of 1890-CC Morgans out there, in grades from AG to gem BU. I'd sell this one for what you can get, then buy an appealing example in the slab of your choice.

Easy fix!
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to the CCF.

I suggest selling it for what you can get and purchase an appealing example in the slab of your choice.
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If you're asking: I'd blast it with heavy duty oven cleaner, rinse, pat dry and then wrap it in homemade toning paper. Leave it in a book for a few months...
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Dear Ghu, you are a philistine... you are supposed to use Brasso and Steel Wool not that nasty caustic oven cleaner.
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