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Pillar of the Community
United States
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1st thing I noticed was the spotty toning- looks like some artificially toned Chinese counterfeit draped bust $'s.   Edge view provided by the seller:  And reverse doesn't appear to match the known VAM reverses:  |
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Bedrock of the Community
United States
94367 Posts |
Just looking at the surfaces, seems too good to be true.
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Pillar of the Community
United States
1788 Posts |
Definitely a counterfeit. The toning is similar to a bunch of fakes that can be purchased on several websites
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Pillar of the Community
United States
4469 Posts |
The coin has issues: rounded numbers in date, poor strike on wing, softness in details, cc does not match known, and why would any seller show the terrible reeding?
Edited by Slider23
02/05/2023 2:48 pm
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Valued Member
United States
122 Posts |
My initial impression is "not good" Looks counterfeit to me, I wouldn't purchase it.
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Pillar of the Community
United States
1510 Posts |
Definitely a counterfeit. I have seen worse ones though.
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Pillar of the Community
United States
3343 Posts |
Very expensive sucker bait. A real MS63 is a $10,000 coin.
"Two minutes ago I would have sold my chances for a tired dime." Fred Astaire
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Pillar of the Community
 United States
517 Posts |
The listing was removed...
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Bedrock of the Community
United States
12057 Posts |
When you learn how the date and MM should look it becomes fairly easy to spot these, along with things like the complete absence of any marks on any of the surfaces.
That being said, this one is more convincing than most, probably good enough to fool quite a few people who aren't paying attention.
Member ANA - EAC - TNA - SSDC - CCT #890 "Most of the things worth doing in the world had been declared impossible before they were done." -- Louis D. Brandeis |
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Pillar of the Community
 United States
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 It's actually easier with a scarcer date like this where there are only a few known date and mintmark positions. In a coin like this, if it doesn't match a known VAM, I would automatically consider it fake. |
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China
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Mint mark  |
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Pillar of the Community
United States
878 Posts |
Thanks for posting the pictures! I've noticed in my perusing of ebay that many sellers of fakes enjoy holding coins with their fingers touching the obverse and reverse in such a way that would leave prints. |
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Posted 02/05/2023 2:44 pm
