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1909-S VDB Lincoln Wheat Cent - Is This Real ?

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 Posted 02/17/2023  10:48 am Show Profile   Bookmark this topic Add jsb to your friends list Get a Link to this Message Number of Subscribers
Hello coin gurus. What do think about this 1909-S VDB?

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 Posted 02/17/2023  11:07 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add kanga to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
The rim makes me say, "No way!"
Your image of the reverse is too small to help identify the coin.
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 Posted 02/17/2023  11:17 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add westernsky to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I don't think so. The rim and the damage around it screams "red flags" to me.

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 Posted 02/17/2023  11:17 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Jakes Coins to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I would say this is without a doubt a counterfeit
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 Posted 02/17/2023  11:19 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add HondoB to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
That is one very sketchy 1909-S VDB cent.
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 Posted 02/17/2023  11:21 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add dsking to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I would take it to a trusted, local dealer for an in-hand observation before I would write it off as a counterfeit. There are indications for both in the photos. Let us know what you find out.
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 Posted 02/17/2023  11:51 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add jsb to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
someone offering to sell it, he said he was offered 700 for it from 2 different dealers. I still would want to have it looked at before making an offer
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How much does this someone want for it?
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Of all the 1909-S VDB's I have seen in person and on line, I have never seen one that was a MAD strike. That rim looks way off to me.
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What's the exact weight?
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Looks like Chinese junk to me. If that's supposed to be MM position #3 it's not rotated clockwise like a real one.
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Looks artificially aged to me. too much wear on the bust to have bright, original red up in the legend.
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It's close to MM position #3, but an overlay shows that it's not an exact match, so definitely counterfeit.
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 Posted 02/17/2023  1:34 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add JTCC to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Sure looks off to me....
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the rim looks like it has obvious issues, I would pass.
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1st coin is no doubt real...real fake.
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