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How Much Does Color Effect Large Cents?

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I've come across some large cents with sharp detail for their grades but their color is very dark. Almost black. How much would this affect value? What causes some to be very dark?
These are dated between 1826 and 1835.
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 Posted 03/25/2023  8:03 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Oldgrouchyguy to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Pictures please... generally, as with any coin, discoloration afffects value
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Not normally a fan of heavy patinas, but that mostly applies to silver coins.

What can look very attractive however,
is a large cent in high grade with an even, rich chocolate patina.
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If the coin is very dark, that is a sign it was likely conserved/restored. It will not bring the same price as an even, natural lighter brown.
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Even if the coin has gotten that dark naturally, the vast majority of collectors prefer chocolate brown, or even lighter red brown, as long as it hasn't been "messed with" to achieve that color. Demand impacts pricing!

Since it's tough for many of us to determine originality on old copper, for me I would only buy older copper if it has been straight graded by a TPG (Third Party Grader, like PCGS or NGC), even in lower grades.

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I would say that the color of the coin is a matter of taste. Every numismatist has his own taste and each of us loves different coins.
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I too collect the large cents, specifically the Braided Hair. Yes, some of them have darkened quite a bit with the age of the old copper. I actually don't mind and almost prefer the dark copper as it can be an indication of not being cleaned. As long as the details are nice, I totally overlook the dark color. It truly is a matter of one's own taste.

I have a very dark, almost black dug BH coin and it certainly has not been cleaned.

ps: Matron Hair is very popular too. The value will still be there and the demand is a bit high. I always use a 10x loupe or higher to examine my LC's before I purchase them.
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dark color is usually an indication of oxidation on the surface metal from poor storage conditions. its a financial negative.

some dates come with pretty poor copper stock. for example the classic head cents (1808-1814) are most often found black and command a premium if they are of better quality.

most people look for tan to milk chocolate colors for their large cents. its a good range aesthetically and usually an indicator of better preserved pieces.
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