1964 D Washington Quarter Struck Through Or PMD?

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Meraxes Valued Member United States 62 Posts	Posted 04/22/2023 01:37 am I haven't come across a divot quite like this on a coin before, so while my default is PMD, I thought I'd get some other opinions. The last picture is a closeup of the reverse side at the corresponding spot. Thanks for taking a look! Report this Post to the Staff

Parnelli917 Valued Member United States 392 Posts	Posted 04/22/2023 04:07 am Not an expert, but nice Cud! Report this Post to the Staff
Spence Moderator United States 34402 Posts	Posted 04/22/2023 06:34 am A Cud would be raised above the field, but the OP describes this mark as a "divot", which makes me think it is incuse instead. A flat spot directly opposite to an incuse mark almost always means that you have damage. Let's see what others think though. "If you climb a good tree, you get a push." -----Ghanaian proverb "The danger we all now face is distinguishing between what is authentic and what is performed." -----King Adz Report this Post to the Staff
ijn1944 Bedrock of the Community United States 19147 Posts	Posted 04/22/2023 08:53 am Certainly lot a Cud, I'm leaning toward strike through--given the rather 'clean' edges around the divot. Would love to be able to examine this piece in-hand to get a better sense of the feature. Edited by ijn1944 04/22/2023 08:55 am Report this Post to the Staff
oddguy Pillar of the Community United States 4135 Posts	Posted 04/22/2023 09:20 am I hope I am wrong but looks like damage. The hit is also on bust and the rev. looks like it has a little bulge which was created by hit. Report this Post to the Staff
Dearborn Moderator United States 95630 Posts	Posted 04/22/2023 09:36 am I'm leaning towards PMD. If it were a strike through, it would not affect the reverse and cause a 'weak' strike there. If it was raised, then I could see the weakness of the reverse happening, but the OP states it is incuse. Also on pics 3 and 4, I can see a very slight bulging of the edge - this cannot happen when inside the collar. Can the OP please post up an image of the edge around this area? Collecting since 1972. Learning from then on "Tell me and I forget. Teach me and I remember. Involve me and I learn." - Benjamin Franklin 7070 type set coin count: 51/76 Uncirculated American Silver Eagles My American Silver Eagle Proof Collection Sacagawea Dollars Innovation Dollars Eisenhower-Dollars Kennedy-Half Dollars Washington-Quarters Roosevelt-Dimes Buffalo-Nickels 1938-2005 Jefferson-Nickels Lincoln-Cents Edited by Dearborn 04/22/2023 09:36 am Report this Post to the Staff
Yokozuna Pillar of the Community United States 4618 Posts	Posted 04/22/2023 12:53 pm Interesting coin! The area on the obverse looks like a true strike through, but that wouldn't explain the reverse which looks to be incuse as well. Hang on to this one until you get a solid answer. You may need an expert to take a look. Do you know of any coin shops in your area that deal in errors or maybe an upcoming coin show? ANA ID: 3203813 - CONECA ID: N-5637 Clean a coin that may be worth collecting? Please DON'T! When in doubt, leave it dirty!! Report this Post to the Staff
nick10 Pillar of the Community United States 3207 Posts	Posted 04/22/2023 1:02 pm defective planchet is a possibility Report this Post to the Staff
Dearborn Moderator United States 95630 Posts	Posted 04/22/2023 1:16 pm I still think it is damage. I can see what could be a tool mark on the edge of the bust, and the metal looks like it has 'rolled over' the edge of the coin (which would explain why the rim looks like it is bulging a bit. Collecting since 1972. Learning from then on "Tell me and I forget. Teach me and I remember. Involve me and I learn." - Benjamin Franklin 7070 type set coin count: 51/76 Uncirculated American Silver Eagles My American Silver Eagle Proof Collection Sacagawea Dollars Innovation Dollars Eisenhower-Dollars Kennedy-Half Dollars Washington-Quarters Roosevelt-Dimes Buffalo-Nickels 1938-2005 Jefferson-Nickels Lincoln-Cents Report this Post to the Staff
Halo1st Pillar of the Community United States 2775 Posts	Posted 04/22/2023 4:34 pm Interesting puzzle. I'm wondering if it started out as an incomplete planchet before strike? Thanks, Doug. Report this Post to the Staff
oddguy Pillar of the Community United States 4135 Posts	Posted 04/22/2023 8:05 pm Thanks Dearborn that arrow is exactly what I was talking about. To me there is no question of this coin being damaged by a hit mark. Report this Post to the Staff
silviosi Pillar of the Community Canada 6244 Posts	Posted 04/22/2023 9:20 pm Is now I see this coin. Is interesting. IMHO it is a fancy hit. Report this Post to the Staff
Cujohn Pillar of the Community United States 7174 Posts	Posted 04/23/2023 5:33 pm Looks to me like a planchet defect. There was a small void on the obverse when struck. That would result in not enough metal to fill in the reverse. Report this Post to the Staff
coop Bedrock of the Community United States 62064 Posts	Posted 04/24/2023 11:40 am Cud is raised. This is incuse. So it is probably damage to the coin. Still a silver coin. still a melt value coin. Report this Post to the Staff
nick10 Pillar of the Community United States 3207 Posts	Posted 04/24/2023 12:43 pm I was hoping Mike would weigh in on this one Report this Post to the Staff
HGK3 Pillar of the Community United States 572 Posts	Posted 04/24/2023 1:08 pm I tend to agree with Cujohn that a defective planchet is more likely. The area on the reverse at the rim looks to me as if it's tilting downward slightly, suggestive of not being enough metal or force of strike to cause the metal to flow and form the R. Also, the area inside the obverse "divot" appears unevenly shaped, particularly on the side by the I. If struck through or with something I would expect more uniformity in contour of the bottom of the divot. What I would really like to see is a close up of the area of the obverse rim around the date. If the planchet was missing part of it's edge when it went through the upset mill it might produce some Blakesley effect in that area. I think I can see a little in the area of the 96 but would like a closeup to be sure. Report this Post to the Staff
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