| Author |
 Replies: 22 / Views: 4,077 |
|
Valued Member
United States
193 Posts |
Seen NW of initial eye   Can actually see it without magnification too. Looks like superimposing of two dies by a faint arc? Edited by EML Coin Collector
06/29/2023 9:34 pm
|
|
|
|
Moderator
 United States
96315 Posts |
well tickle my fancy! I certainly see a second eye WAYY off from where it is supposed to be. I don't think it is actually a doubled eye though. Could be a very convenient circulation hit. The spacing of the 'second' eye is not correct (top to bottom and the angle is all wrong)
|
|
Pillar of the Community
United States
3237 Posts |
Looks like circulation damage to me. Very unlikely it's a doubled eye, since it's not at the center of the design and they eye isn't the highest relief design element.
|
|
Valued Member
 United States
193 Posts |
SamCoin
There's no way that could be circulation damage. Misplacements can be done from all angles so not sure why angle would be "wrong" or why it would have to be in the center? Look at mint errors-those things can be all over the place!
If you notice, there is an arc to the right of the double eye so it seems to me like a superimposing of some kind with a partial strike maybe of the eye which is why the eye looks "different". What if it was a die application on a slightly different angle-that could have this effect too.
Edited by EML Coin Collector
06/29/2023 10:05 pm
|
|
Pillar of the Community
United States
3237 Posts |
I don't think you have a very firm grasp of how coins are made or what a doubled die actually is. If by "misplacements" you mean misalignments of the hub with the die blank, no, they can not happen anywhere on modern single squeeze dies. The die blank is convex and there is only a limited range of tolerance for misalignment between the hub and die blank. Since the blank is convex, the center makes first contact with the hub, so any kind of strictly-local doubling like this without general doubling to the entire design can only occur at roughly the center of the design and to the highest relief areas.
Edited by SamCoin
06/29/2023 10:13 pm
|
|
Valued Member
United States
193 Posts |
SamCoin Seems like someone else has a similar issue: https://boards.ngccoin.com/topic/41...have-2-eyes/I still think mistakes can happen due to malfunctioning equipment or something like that. I'm sure what you say will apply to 99% of cases, but what about the 1%? Edited by EML Coin Collector
06/29/2023 10:17 pm
|
|
Moderator
United States
96315 Posts |
Can you post up a close up of this eye feature please?
I would like to do some measurements for you, but I need a better closer image Please make sure the focus is as sharp as you can get it.
|
|
Pillar of the Community
United States
3237 Posts |
The topic you linked looks like an obvious photoshop troll to me. The triangle formed by the cheek and brow that the eye sits in has been deformed and expanded by the supposed "extra eye." And the first comment on the thread is a user expressing skepticism because of the way single squeeze dies are made.
|
|
Valued Member
United States
193 Posts |
Dearborn Will do so tomorrow.
SamCoin-Just like you for reasons based on how things are normally done and understandable.
|
|
Bedrock of the Community
United States
74275 Posts |
Looks normal to me.
Errers and Varietys.
|
|
Pillar of the Community
Canada
6244 Posts |
What you see on the NGC forum and your coin it is a big difference. Apples and Tomatoes are different also.
|
|
Pillar of the Community
United States
4618 Posts |
The light reflection on the anomaly looks as if these lines are incuse. If it were die doubling the feature would be in relief like the normal eye and not incuse. I can see other bag or circulation marks of relatively the same depth and length on Lincoln's beard, cheek, upper lip and nose. I compared the lines using Photoshop overlays to the normal eye and they are all slightly different in length and do not seem to have the same curves, shape or spacing as the normal eye. I used the eyelid as an anchor point for the animation frame. I think these marks are Post Mint Damage that coincidently looks like the engraving of Lincoln's eye.  ANA ID: 3203813 - CONECA ID: N-5637 Clean a coin that may be worth collecting? Please DON'T! When in doubt, leave it dirty!! 
|
|
Valued Member
United States
193 Posts |
Yokozuna
So you show that the image from the link I provided is most likely a fake/Photoshopped. That makes sense how you showed it.
silviosi
Only mentioned the link since it showed something similar in terms of a "double eye".
Edited by EML Coin Collector
06/30/2023 06:38 am
|
|
Valued Member
United States
193 Posts |
Edited by EML Coin Collector
06/30/2023 11:54 am
|
|
Moderator
United States
96315 Posts |
Well Yoko did just what I was going to do, but not as good as him. As I stated, the spacing and angles are not correct - and you can see that in Yoko's presentation.
|
|
Valued Member
United States
193 Posts |
Dearborn
Yoko's presentation is based on the image in the link I provided which is someone else's coin.
My coin is very different in eye location, etc. annd posted in the last three images enlarged.
Edited by EML Coin Collector
06/30/2023 7:58 pm
|
| |
Replies: 22 / Views: 4,077 |
Posted 06/29/2023 9:44 pm
