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Edited by CoinEnthusiast
07/11/2023 11:47 am
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Pillar of the Community
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Looks absolutely genuine. Mintmark position 4, and VDB looks correct. Hard to tell if surfaces are original, but I lean towards AU-58.
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Bedrock of the Community
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Interesting. That area right around the mint mark looks worked over--given the posted pic. Would love to see the coin in-hand.
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Not my series / expertise, I do agree the mm area looks funny but IMO Beautiful looking key date, using PCGS' diagnostics it appears to be mm position 4 & the B in vdb appears correct.
I've been collecting for a couple years... Favorite Coin's are Standing Liberty quarters, Working on my type set | Coffee, Corvettes, Coins & the CCF what could be better? Edited by Jakes Coins
07/11/2023 12:04 pm
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Pillar of the Community
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I am suspicious of the "grind" marks surrounding the mintmark.
I would not touch it until it has been authenticated.
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It's a nice coin but the S looks like it has tooling marks. I would pass unless certified.
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Few bargains on these and some report much remorse...go with a PCGS straight graded example even old Mr. Q. David Bowers says "I highly suggest purchase of certified examples only" I'm entitled to spout off because a dealer in Portland ripped me off with a genuine cleaned 1909 S v.d.b. back in 2016 they were alot cheaper in 2016 but that cleaned coin stuck in my craw.
There's something off and weird about that S...ask seller to ship it to ANAC's on 5 day turn around.
Edited by luvmyCAM
07/11/2023 3:03 pm
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I agree that the area surrounding the mm appears to be tooled but the upper loop of the S appears to have the diagnostic lump. I'd like to see a better closeup of the MM. For a high grade rare date, why hasn't it already been slabbed? Gotta wonder what is going on.
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Hard pass
The mint mark area stands out like a sore thumb, sketchy.
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I agree the patch of striations behind the S is suspicious, but I still think it's genuine. Obviously, a certified example is the safe way to go.
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I am suspicious of the "grind" marks surrounding the mint mark. Quote:
looks like it has tooling marks Quote:
sketchy These marks are very common on genuine die #4 coins. These are die "polishing" marks put on by a mint employee.  Show your financial support of the Coin Community Family (click here)See my topic on Mexican Numismatic Medals (click here) |
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Thanks, nss-52, that comparison is very helpful!
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Looks genuine to me. Match on the die scratches nss pointed out. Majority of what surrounds the MM are metal flow lines. Not seeing any signs of tooling.
AU sharpness, but surfaces don't look original, AU Details, cleaned.
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I'm still on the fence. The S doesn't look as smooth as it should for a genuine coin. The S on the authentic coins has no rough edges, the op coin has rough edges. This is one I would only buy if it's certified.
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Bedrock of the Community
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The enlarged top serif on the S is worrisome to me.
Edited by Coinfrog
07/11/2023 9:52 pm
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That was a great comparison NSS. I think it is genuine as well.
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Posted 07/11/2023 11:52 am
