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What Coin, Medal, Or Exonumia Is Your Current "Holy Grail" ?

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As I've embraced various aspects of the hobby, I find there are "must haves" that pop up on my collector's radar. I've been fortunate to acquire some of these ( the 2011 ASE 25th Ann'y 5 coin Set is an example ) while getting acquainted with the hobby and the many pursuits it affords.

With the wide range of experience and enthusiasms I've seen since joining the CCF a year or so ago, I wonder what your current "Holy Grails" are.

Mine is a medal, produced in 1971, as part of the Hall of Fame of Great Americans at New York University series, in bronze or silver, of Augustus Saint-Gaudens. Here's a link to a silver version that sold on WorthPoint:

https://www.worthpoint.com/worthope...me-520342442

And you ?

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According to a book I have on the history of nuclear energy in West Germany, a commemorative medal (possibly only a single specimen) was struck from the first uranium mined in that country. That would definitely be a "Holy Grail", an essentially unattainable goal. Uranium is not used for coinage for very good reasons, its radioactivity being low on the list. For one thing it's pyrophoric — trimmings or shavings may ignite when exposed to air!
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One of the advantages of being a generalist like myself, is the general lack of "holy grails" that are impossible to find. Or rather, there are so many of them, that the probability of finding one at any given coin shoop or coin show is actually rather high. But I do have several items, that I've been trying to get for a couple of decades now, that have eluded me (so I guess they're more "white whales" than "holy grails").

The coin-like medal struck in the name of Neutral Moresnet, a tiny "country" that used to exist prior to WWI. It never made coins, but one fantasy "coin" was made for it, by persons unknown. This 2 franc "coin" is dated 1848 and examples were discussed in numismatic literature as early as 1869, so they are contemporary with the microstate's existence, not modern post-WWI fantasies and the 1848 date is likely to be correct. I particularly like the rather unflattering janiform portrait of Leopold I of Belgium and Frederick William IV of Prussia.

The "ackey" coinage struck by the British for the Gold Coast colony, in Africa, in the late 1700s. ebay has been flooded with fakes in the past decade.

A coin from Helike, the "real world Atlantis". This Greek city was destroyed and sunk by an earthquake-and-tsunami in 373 BC and the underwater ruins were a popular Greco-Roman tourist destination, before the site silted up and was lost for 1800 years before being rediscovered in 2000.

An antimony 10 cents from Kweichow Province, China, 1931. The only circulating coin (or indeed, only coin ever) to be made from antimony, a brittle, toxic semimetallic element entirely unsuitable for use in coinage. The local warlord had no sources of gold, silver or copper within his territory, but he did have an antimony mine, and decided to try to use it for coinage. A "must-have" for every serious one-from-every-element collector

While on the subject of weird elements used in circulating coinage, there's the Russian platinum coinage from the early 1800s. Russia had a vast supply of platinum and had no other use for it, so they decided to turn it into coinage, at a face-value exchange rate of 3 ounces of platinum equalling 1 ounce of gold. Coins of 3, 6 and 12 ruble denominations were issued, though only the 3 ruble was issued in economically significant quantities.

A coin from Cyrene (ancient Libya) depicting the silphium plant. Silphium was an ancient herbal medicine that actually worked, to cure all sorts of diseases and ailments, as well as tasting delicious. Unfortunately, it refused to be cultivated, and the wild plants were harvested to extinction during the early Roman Imperial period (the last plant was apparently served to emperor Nero). But the region where the plants grew, Cyrene, was proud of their famous export, and placed it on many of their coins; these coins are the most reliable contemporary evidence we have of what the plant actually looked like. I already have one "silphium coin", but it's a bronze coin in rather awful condition so the plant is barely recognizable. I'd like a silver coin, where the plant is clearly visible.
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I have a couple of very boring ordinary 'Holy Grail' coins - they are both modern and issued in the hundreds of millions. They are a Greek 2002 1 eurocent and a German 2002-G 1 eurocent. Since the euro was introduced in 2002 I've tried to get all the initial coins issued from circulation but these two still elude me. They aren't often sold individually and are the type of coin that ends up in dealers' junk trays, but I'd rather get them for face value on a trip to Europe if I can. European 1c coins aren't used anywhere near as much as US 1-cent coins and you don't see them that much in circulation.
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That's the big problem here. I had some good candidates before leaving Russia, but now it's hard to get any coins at all...

I did think of a local one that I'd really like to get, but some googling (in preparation for this comment) left me unconvinced that it even exists. It could be just a Numista bug.
(For the record: 10 agorot dated 5744/1984. I already didn't quite believe that this date could exist, but now that I searched, I couldn't find any examples online either.)
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Like NumisRob, I am hoping to get a German coin missing from my collection. Not the 2002G 1 cent, I already have that one.

I have full sets of the German FDR circulation pfenning coins, in 1pf, 2pf, 5pf, 10pf , but I'm missing one coin from the 50pf set. In 1950 there was 2 different G mint mark coins. One has dots either side of the word Pfenning like this...

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But I would like to get hold of this one at some stage, with no dots.
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As I have been slowly extending my U.S. Type Coin album further and further into the past into the 1700s, I was finally able to pick up a decent 1795 Flowing Hair Half Dollar at a price I could afford and with enough detail to satisfy my taste:

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Finding a matching Flowing Hair Dollar, on the other hand, is likely going to be a lot trickier (and likely a lot more expensive). Maybe at next year's big coin show I will find one and end up spending my entire budget on just that one coin.
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Here's my biggie, the elusive Half Disme, they don't come up often but this one comes up next week and it's up to 50 grand already :(

Everything else in a theoretical US type set is obtainable in some grade or another, but this one will probably sit there as an empty hole for all time.
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I would love to own this 1952 medal struck by the Mexican Mint, 151 made.
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1847 Great Britain gothic crown:

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mine are simple and doable, 2008 W ASE with 2007 rev, and a 1995 W ASE
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Most of you will know when I can just say 1909-S VDB and 1916-D without any other descriptors.
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I would have figured it was an Eisenhower dollar?

For the sake of something to say, I will go with the Denver minted congress bicentennial silver dollar with 180 degree rotated die.
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I would have figured it was an Eisenhower dollar?
Cannot be a holy grail if I already got them all... twice.
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Like Sap, I am a numismatic generalist; thus, my search for 'Holy Grails' across the whole of numismatics, is similar.
Most of them are doable in terms of cost, ($ hundreds range), but not in terms of rarity.

On the international auction scene, it matters little whatever sort of 'Holy Grail' it may be, as long as it is auctionable.

The big jackpot is if you can find a 'Holy Grail' at a coin show, at reasonable cost.

At a lower level, I am currently looking for a nice US 20 Cents (double Dime).

I have a few very scarce gross error, off metal planchets and European pattern coins, (much less than 1000 struck), but I don't consider them as 'Holy Grails'.
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Some would say choice surfaces on a CBH is a holy grail. Here is one of my best original examples, a non-molested, cleaned, or altered XF.

1809 O-115a

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