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Pillar of the Community
United States
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Are commemorative coins legal tender? Could I use a bunch of them to buy a few groceries?
My gut tells me no, but at the same time it seems that any coin that has a value on it (50 cents, $1, etc.), one should be able to spend.
I defer to the experts.
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Pillar of the Community
Australia
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Quote: Are commemorative coins legal tender? Could I use a bunch of them to buy a few groceries? Not sure about in other countries, but here in Australia, the answer is yes.
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Pillar of the Community
United States
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They are legal tender and you can try to use them like trying to use an ASE. They aren't used as legal tender since they generally have more than tender value.
Edited by hfjacinto 09/23/2023 6:46 pm
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Bedrock of the Community
United States
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They're certainly legal tender in the US.
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Pillar of the Community
 United States
2333 Posts |
I guess the question is...were you denied a purchase while attempting to make a purchase? smat
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Valued Member
United States
354 Posts |
If the certificate of Authenticity is available, that document will indicate if a coin is legal tender.
Better yet, next time you need to buy groceries, invite me. I'll gladly pay the grocery bill and you can just turn the commemorative over to me. A win-win!
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Bedrock of the Community
 United States
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jpsned, you're going to give commems a stroke at the very thought of spending them as legal tender.
Inordinately fascinated by bits of metal with strange markings and figures
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Moderator
 United States
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Yes of course they are legal tender. Next time you wish to purchase a dozen eggs with your $5 gold commemorative let me know and I'll exchange it with you for a $5 bill.
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CCF Master Historian of USA Commemoratives
 United States
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Quote: you're going to give commems a stroke at the very thought of spending them as legal tender.  As noted by others, all US commemorative coins are legal tender. In the case of silver and gold coins, their intrinsic value is greater than their face value so it makes little sense to spend them at their stated denomination. The CuNi Clad half dollars are minted in the same composition as regular circulating half dollars, however, so the intrinsic value vs. face value argument is negated. It's for this reason that more modern-era commemorative half dollars have made their way into circulation than any other modern-era denomination.
Collecting history one coin or medal at a time! (c) commems. All rights reserved.
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Pillar of the Community
United States
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COMMEMS Stated " It's for this reason that more modern-era commemorative half dollars have made their way into circulation than any other modern-era denomination. "  More than ANY Modern-Era Denomination, ? While I Think I Agree, I See Members have and Do collect the Classic Era Commemoratives In Circulated Condition, In Fact, I believe it is a Pre -Requisite, it Must be in a Very Circulated Condition. I Really Do NOT see Any if Many Modern Commemoratives, in Very Circulated Condition, Actually, I Only See Modern's Here, In All Their Awesome Historic Glory.....  That said, I do Also believe the Modern Day Commemoratives being " Usually " minted in The Other than " Silver " Composition , have Exceptions, The 1982 Geo. Washington Silver Half  , The 1998 Robert. F. Kennedy Silver Half. 
Edited by Morgans Dad 09/24/2023 1:21 pm
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CCF Master Historian of USA Commemoratives
 United States
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Quote: More than ANY Modern-Era Denomination, ? If we're talking about coins not intended for circulation, then "Yes." Quote: I Really Do NOT see Any if Many Modern Commemoratives, in Very Circulated Condition, Actually, I Only See Modern's Here, In All Their Awesome Historic Glory..... A number of modern-era commemorative half dollars have been reported here on CCF as being found in rolls from banks. They've been reported on other sites as well. Quote: The 1998 Robert. F. Kennedy Silver Half Maybe you mean the 1993 James Madison/Bill of Rights silver Half Dollar?
Collecting history one coin or medal at a time! (c) commems. All rights reserved.
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Pillar of the Community
 United States
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Thank you to everyone who offered to take my highly valued commemoratives off my hands before I use them to buy a few bags of Doritos. I'm good. 
Edited by jpsned 09/24/2023 5:26 pm
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Pillar of the Community
United States
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Commems, I Do NOT agree, Out of ALL of Coinage in the Modern age, Not Intended for Circulation, No....... I have NOT seen Any, I will take your word...... " Maybe you mean the 1993 James Madison/Bill of Rights silver Half Dollar? " That's THREE..... My prior mentioned 2 and Your 1993 BOR.... As mentioned, NOT many Halfs were minted in Silver........ 
Edited by Morgans Dad 09/24/2023 5:58 pm
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CCF Master Historian of USA Commemoratives
 United States
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There wasn't a 1998 Robert F. Kennedy Half Dollar issued, only a Silver Dollar. The RFK SD was packaged with an uncirculated silver JFK Half Dollar in a special "Collector's Set" but no RFK Half Dollar, silver or clad, was issued.
Collecting history one coin or medal at a time! (c) commems. All rights reserved.
Edited by commems 09/24/2023 6:46 pm
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Moderator
 Australia
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As mentioned in the other thread discussing legal tender status of coins, American coins today are covered by the 1965 coinage act, as preserved in 31 U.S. Code § 5103, which is very broad and vague in its definition, and is unrestricted in terms of numbers of coins that are regarded as legal tender: Quote:31 U.S. Code § 5103 - Legal tender United States coins and currency (including Federal reserve notes and circulating notes of Federal reserve banks and national banks) are legal tender for all debts, public charges, taxes, and dues... So, any coin ever issued under US government authority is currently legal tender for its face value. This would include commemorative NCLT coins. Legally, there isn't really any difference in terms of legal tender status between NCLT commemorative coins, and made-for-circulation commemoratives like the 2009 Lincoln pennies or the 1976 bicentennial coins. And, as discussed ad nauseum in such threads, there is a difference between "being legal tender" and "being able to spend it". The legal tender clause and the "compulsion to accept" is only in play in very limited circumstances: the incurrence of a debt which you are offering to pay. Going shopping, or buying fast food at a restaurant, or even depositing money in a bank, does not "incur a debt", because a transaction hasn't happened until after you pay; up until that point, you're negotiating a transaction, not incurring a debt. A merchant is perfectly entitled to refuse your "legal tender" coins and ask you to pay in some other form of money, if they don't recognise or question the authenticity of the coins or notes in question. They aren't even obliged to put up a sign in their shop stating which forms of money they do or do not accept, though this is often done as a courtesy to customers. If your "legal tender coins" are refused, you can then either choose to offer a form of payment more acceptable to the merchant, or to cancel the tranasaction, walk away and leave your goods behind on the counter. As noted, other countries may have different laws. Most countries have limitations on the number of coins that must be accepted as legal tender (for example, in Australia, more than $5 worth of five cent pieces are not legal tender, so you can't pay your $1000 tax bill in 5¢ pieces here). For Canadian coins above $10 face value (all NCLT coins), the number of such coins you can use in a transaction is one - so you can't just hand over a giant pile of NCLT to try to pay a debt. Some smaller countries (Marshall Islands, Cook Islands, and others) which over-issued vast quantities of NCLT have even retrospectively revoked the legal tender status of their own coins.
Don't say "infinitely" when you mean "very"; otherwise, you'll have no word left when you want to talk about something really infinite. - C. S. Lewis
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Pillar of the Community
United States
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" There wasn't a 1998 Robert F. Kennedy half dollar issued, only a Silver Dollar. The RFK SD was packaged with an uncirculated silver JFK Half Dollar in a special "Collector's Set" but no RFK Half Dollar, silver or clad, was issued. " Correct, Thank You, I meant to say,  The 1998- S Matte Finish J F K Silver Half was Issued, I Appreciate the Correction, .... My only point, There Were/Are NOT many Modern Commemorative Halfs Made in Silver..... While I do collect Classics and Modern Commemoratives, I Do NOT collect them All, Just the Ones that Strike Me the Most....... 
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